Received: from mail-da0-f56.google.com ([209.85.210.56]:44234) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TnZ9u-0004cT-1V; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:30 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f56.google.com with SMTP id g9sf3160880dad.21 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=OW6uEakmEv3zfTI2Eql94hSW1hqO5BWfXBh9hOwmAHM=; b=BY8YzEYUY85jEjrgZtHPNUu7vVNOvUcCmYHP+tKFpa6lIz/gxjuc2g9hG83Rih1hL+ zSZRSg80CDy4fW7WlqJF8LMy2bxlXqFr4pHj1Kmd1Q+clOt+KjnWuVDxR+scyR9Kpzkm oa0BFldcKibmxSa9yL7p3f01J/Q8oPtGKmfOzPKAkZ6+IHcI2Kz/BbLJDfquawxgSG7Z zdhctaca4QWtxmi6mtX+Qe8Fkljlt414IU61pcOrQmcGQWTtCIhske4nwnNEwDoL/twp D9nz+lUFxCHXibPOuze7Q+6A7AXSMntzve6svL8cdAZG5CrnhMt4QWE7oNHZ5lUuctF3 zJsg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=OW6uEakmEv3zfTI2Eql94hSW1hqO5BWfXBh9hOwmAHM=; b=uSeT1uyTNPMeyXaMi56kOoKBPAPXa0RTqFt52fHr7jqJpPb1eBMOTRznPKmtpSZ/So xeCJ6Ik0q1w91PAB8nsxRUNDwYhhQZH6NuNHyy+CL+91W0HkUpJ++DNc4qptOHGWwPmP f8RQYJq4Z5irqn6T3cPyf06CnJH8QNQJKOP1bEaqOjs71JFqE2PPG6ZEt89+BALpNKBg qvrZ9l7ClInjyJkCf+f869SWN3fqZdzfwGbiC8Fru9b043kphTDz3xBvmf5LQmy/cXTm G8mk3NsSzC69yQ0q6V1cSAe2A2VJEQd4hM3+Y++Uih/qSQz3U6Spm6IXKsVj4Nj7HT/6 MM6w== X-Received: by 10.49.94.129 with SMTP id dc1mr3681995qeb.22.1356459795564; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.107.35 with SMTP id gz3ls3185344qeb.52.gmail; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.15.10 with SMTP id t10mr11634886vec.6.1356459794230; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.15.10 with SMTP id t10mr11634884vec.6.1356459794203; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vb0-f46.google.com (mail-vb0-f46.google.com [209.85.212.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20si7351624vdg.3.2012.12.25.10.23.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.46; Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b13so8146994vby.5 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.8.18 with SMTP id f18mr36230711vcf.14.1356459794084; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.233 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:22:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <60b42266-009d-4fd8-a5e3-2bd3181095d4@googlegroups.com> References: <11ecfede-d731-44b8-b71e-8aa427be0544@googlegroups.com> <60b42266-009d-4fd8-a5e3-2bd3181095d4@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:22:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Comments inside quotations. {lu ... [sei ...se'u] ... li'u}. No solution? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee3e22db4a304d1b1685e X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec54ee3e22db4a304d1b1685e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 25 December 2012 09:01, la gleki wrote: > > > On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:39:20 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >> >> Just as my-two-cents comment, I would like to say that I too dislike the >> use of {sei ... se'u} for split quoting. As it stands right now, there >> isn't really any other option, although I think I like the idea of FAlu for >> that purpose, as gleki spoke of earlier. >> > > I'll wait until tsani replies. I'm not a legislative power in Lojbanistan. > > Haha, I'm glad to see people actually thinking that I have some voice around here. Regardless, I don't really, given the dictatorial nature of Lojbanistan. To return to the main question, using sei to split quotes has some inherent ambiguity; using sa'a merely diminishes it, I think. That being said, I don't like the idea of split quotes at all. they seem unlojbanic, especially considering that the resulting sentence is not a bridi. It's just a free-floating sumti between two {.i}. I don't have any objections to using FAlu, but I think that it's stylistically poor. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:39:20 PM UTC+4, a= ionys wrote:
Just as my-two-cents co= mment, I would like to say that I too dislike the use of {sei ... se'u}= for split quoting. As it stands right now, there isn't really any othe= r option, although I think I like the idea of FAlu for that purpose, as gle= ki spoke of earlier.

I'll wait until tsani replies. I= 'm not a legislative power in Lojbanistan.
=

Haha, I'm glad to see = people actually thinking that I have some voice around here. Regardless, I = don't really, given the dictatorial nature of Lojbanistan.

To return to the main question, using sei to split quot= es has some inherent ambiguity; using sa'a merely diminishes it, I thin= k. That being said, I don't like the idea of split quotes at all. they = seem unlojbanic, especially considering that the resulting sentence is not = a bridi. It's just a free-floating sumti between two {.i}. I don't = have any objections to using FAlu, but I think that it's stylistically = poor.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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