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PA SELBRI = PA da poi ke'a SELBRI now, while PA SUMTI = PA da poi ke'a me SUMTI. With xorlo now introducing a zo'e when you use lo, PA SELBRI and PA lo SELBRI are now entirely unrelated. mu'o mi'e la latro'a On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > pa plise = pa lo plise = "one of one or more things which actually is an > apple" = an apple (as opposed to "that apple") > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 19:58:05 v4hn wrote: >> > The question is, what do you answer, if you _don't_ have a specific one >> > (or a group of specific ones) in mind, but {lo plise} is the most >> specific >> > thing you can say? >> >> "lo co'e plise"? "lo nalsteci plise"? >> >> Pierre >> -- >> li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d04388ed5084c8104d1c98954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This formula is now false. PA SELBRI =3D PA da poi ke'a SELBRI now, whi= le PA SUMTI =3D PA da poi ke'a me SUMTI. With xorlo now introducing a z= o'e when you use lo, PA SELBRI and PA lo SELBRI are now entirely unrela= ted.

mu'o mi'e la latro'a

On W= ed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
pa plise =3D pa lo plise =3D "one of on= e or more things which actually is an apple" =3D an apple (as opposed = to "that apple")


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 a= t 12:04 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 19:58:0= 5 v4hn wrote:
> The question is, what do you answer, if you _don't_ have a specifi= c one
> (or a group of specific ones) in mind, but {lo plise} is the most spec= ific
> thing you can say?

"lo co'e plise"? "lo nalsteci plise"?

Pierre
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