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PA SELBRI = PA da poi ke'a SELBRI now, while >> PA SUMTI = PA da poi ke'a me SUMTI. With xorlo now introducing a zo'e when >> you use lo, PA SELBRI and PA lo SELBRI are now entirely unrelated. >> >> mu'o mi'e la latro'a >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> pa plise = pa lo plise = "one of one or more things which actually is an >>> apple" = an apple (as opposed to "that apple") >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 19:58:05 v4hn wrote: >>>> > The question is, what do you answer, if you _don't_ have a specific >>>> one >>>> > (or a group of specific ones) in mind, but {lo plise} is the most >>>> specific >>>> > thing you can say? >>>> >>>> "lo co'e plise"? 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On 26 De= cember 2012 18:10, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>= wrote:
Gah I see tsani already said this, oh well.<= div class=3D"HOEnZb">


O= n Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com= > wrote:
This formula is now false. PA SELBRI =3D PA = da poi ke'a SELBRI now, while PA SUMTI =3D PA da poi ke'a me SUMTI.= With xorlo now introducing a zo'e when you use lo, PA SELBRI and PA lo= SELBRI are now entirely unrelated.

mu'o mi'e la latro'a


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <= ;eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
pa plise =3D pa lo plise =3D "one of on= e or more things which actually is an apple" =3D an apple (as opposed = to "that apple")


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM, P= ierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 19:58:0= 5 v4hn wrote:
> The question is, what do you answer, if you _don't_ have a specifi= c one
> (or a group of specific ones) in mind, but {lo plise} is the most spec= ific
> thing you can say?

"lo co'e plise"? "lo nalsteci plise"?

Pierre
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