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spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340f6fe7487904d1e7e168 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9340f6fe7487904d1e7e168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree that such "ambiguities" are important and I think it's a Lojban plus to be able to reflect the same ambiguity. {mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi} WIth the added benefit of being able to convey the disambiguation grammatically (i.e. without resorting to typographical conventions like bold) using {ba'e}: {ba'e mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi} {mi ba'e noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi} etc. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:58 AM, la gleki wrote: > Let me act as *la .ki'es.di'es.* a little :) > > > http://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2012/12/25/strategic-ambiguity-of-language/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/n59CmCju-NEJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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I agree that such "ambiguities" are importa= nt and I think it's a Lojban plus to be able to reflect the same ambigu= ity.

{mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe = mi}

WIth the added benefit of being able to convey the disambiguation gramm= atically (i.e. without resorting to typographical conventions like bold) us= ing {ba'e}:

{ba'e mi noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerl= e'a lo jdini pe mi}
{mi ba'e noroi cusku le sedu'u ko'a zerle'a lo jdini pe mi}=

etc.



On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:58 AM, la gleki <gle= ki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me act as la .ki'es.di'es. a little :)

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