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On Friday, December 28, 2012 3:22:54 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 22:06:22 la gleki wrote: 
> > On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:33:24 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: 
> > > On Thursday, December 27, 2012 19:36:38 vitci'i wrote: 
> > > > It's a baramin, not a clade. 
> > > 
> > > What?! You mean that God created the ur-worm which then diversified 
> into 
> > > flatworms, roundworms, earthworms, silkworms, and slowworms? No way. 
> > 
> > It's not God. {curnu} is a term used by primitive savage Lojbanists that 
> > lived near the Amazon river thousands of years ago. 
>
> Ah, you mean a folk-taxon. I've known all along that "curnu" does not 
> denote a 
> clade or Linnean taxon, unlike e.g. "guzme" (member of Cucurbitaceae) or 
> "xruba" (member of Polygonaceae). The question is, what does it denote? 
> What 
> is included in loi curnu? 
>

Any worm-like creatures, I believe. 
I remember that children can sometimes name worms "snakes". The issue is 
somewhat related.
And this is not the problem of Lojban.
Can we call snakes reptiles? They used to be called reptiles.
Some new school textbooks have already started to deny that, however.


> Pierre 
> -- 
> ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji 
>
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<br><br>On Friday, December 28, 2012 3:22:54 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:<=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bord=
er-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Thursday, December 27, 2012 =
22:06:22 la gleki wrote:
<br>&gt; On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:33:24 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
<br>&gt; &gt; On Thursday, December 27, 2012 19:36:38 vitci'i wrote:
<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; It's a baramin, not a clade.
<br>&gt; &gt;=20
<br>&gt; &gt; What?! You mean that God created the ur-worm which then diver=
sified into
<br>&gt; &gt; flatworms, roundworms, earthworms, silkworms, and slowworms? =
No way.
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; It's not God. {curnu} is a term used by primitive savage Lojbanist=
s that
<br>&gt; lived near the Amazon river thousands of years ago.
<br>
<br>Ah, you mean a folk-taxon. I've known all along that "curnu" does not d=
enote a=20
<br>clade or Linnean taxon, unlike e.g. "guzme" (member of Cucurbitaceae) o=
r=20
<br>"xruba" (member of Polygonaceae). The question is, what does it denote?=
 What=20
<br>is included in loi curnu?
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Any worm-like creatures, I believe.&nb=
sp;</div><div>I remember that children can sometimes name worms "snakes". T=
he issue is somewhat related.<br></div><div>And this is not the problem of =
Lojban.<br></div><div>Can we call snakes reptiles? They used to be called r=
eptiles.<br></div><div>Some new school textbooks have already started to de=
ny that, however.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
: 1ex;">
<br>Pierre
<br>--=20
<br>ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
<br>
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