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Not only children, but Chinese people too.   Snake is categorized under the
insect category (the "insect" key)


2012/12/28 la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>

>
>
> On Friday, December 28, 2012 3:22:54 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 22:06:22 la gleki wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:33:24 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, December 27, 2012 19:36:38 vitci'i wrote:
>> > > > It's a baramin, not a clade.
>> > >
>> > > What?! You mean that God created the ur-worm which then diversified
>> into
>> > > flatworms, roundworms, earthworms, silkworms, and slowworms? No way.
>> >
>> > It's not God. {curnu} is a term used by primitive savage Lojbanists
>> that
>> > lived near the Amazon river thousands of years ago.
>>
>> Ah, you mean a folk-taxon. I've known all along that "curnu" does not
>> denote a
>> clade or Linnean taxon, unlike e.g. "guzme" (member of Cucurbitaceae) or
>> "xruba" (member of Polygonaceae). The question is, what does it denote?
>> What
>> is included in loi curnu?
>>
>
> Any worm-like creatures, I believe.
> I remember that children can sometimes name worms "snakes". The issue is
> somewhat related.
> And this is not the problem of Lojban.
> Can we call snakes reptiles? They used to be called reptiles.
> Some new school textbooks have already started to deny that, however.
>
>
>> Pierre
>> --
>> ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Not only children, but Chinese people too.=A0=A0 Snake is =
categorized under the insect category (the &quot;insect&quot; key)<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/12/28 l=
a gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><br><br>On Friday, Decembe=
r 28, 2012 3:22:54 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddi=
ng-left:1ex">
On Thursday, December 27, 2012 22:06:22 la gleki wrote:
<br>&gt; On Friday, December 28, 2012 8:33:24 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
<br>&gt; &gt; On Thursday, December 27, 2012 19:36:38 vitci&#39;i wrote:
<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; It&#39;s a baramin, not a clade.
<br>&gt; &gt;=20
<br>&gt; &gt; What?! You mean that God created the ur-worm which then diver=
sified into
<br>&gt; &gt; flatworms, roundworms, earthworms, silkworms, and slowworms? =
No way.
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; It&#39;s not God. {curnu} is a term used by primitive savage Lojba=
nists that
<br>&gt; lived near the Amazon river thousands of years ago.
<br>
<br>Ah, you mean a folk-taxon. I&#39;ve known all along that &quot;curnu&qu=
ot; does not denote a=20
<br>clade or Linnean taxon, unlike e.g. &quot;guzme&quot; (member of Cucurb=
itaceae) or=20
<br>&quot;xruba&quot; (member of Polygonaceae). The question is, what does =
it denote? What=20
<br>is included in loi curnu?
<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Any worm-like creatures, I belie=
ve.=A0</div><div>I remember that children can sometimes name worms &quot;sn=
akes&quot;. The issue is somewhat related.<br></div><div>And this is not th=
e problem of Lojban.<br>
</div><div>Can we call snakes reptiles? They used to be called reptiles.<br=
></div><div>Some new school textbooks have already started to deny that, ho=
wever.</div><div class=3D"im"><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">

<br>Pierre
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<br>ve ka&#39;a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
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