Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:57180) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tocle-0004Rz-3i; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:26:58 -0800 Received: by mail-gh0-f189.google.com with SMTP id f16sf4558928ghb.26 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:26:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5gN+dPSdRagKO3Hoya2OTwsW9Rm2XjqTGXsoqmCv9jQ=; b=Oq+XwO2jI4+L90G8Q5m5sqKL6CqFvEnrEpgxrDPBLwFMNUxDrlZVKLx4RFJ9bc/LAL +mz9PCAjy3eA0SsnO6hTzks/jYX+Cyjq37d6cH37NkuzTaCLNB3VBTxJskSZwcObkqP/ Wa17RWcaG7N3F3l6Rp/v5mUp3zcK9/fHWzQAdesI8xQ25+HWkm2so2FTQtdvzSqdEE4e h26gDBjLLLJrasrp5pvnX+9WVTwEJVom9de91PUPdjbEQ2cHvHL+UCsRoEsZArJ/47a/ fnJr/k0aVyjswa/IYyDOJqSI87v7Uk6QuXfwcIBlV7H3KbxS96aBE44qHzJ4vAOKFTsQ lx4g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5gN+dPSdRagKO3Hoya2OTwsW9Rm2XjqTGXsoqmCv9jQ=; b=S23yfIl1lHtNjZER3/6iSXYPF2xgVNvdR/lgYyXnlt70N7Wy+kyZiUKOMHjERPzT4A mfhN03knSMSn+QI4na5HPmO5S2cYqCOSfllpTDlBjEsoZlorKF5r4xFQ//2Pi+k4rqgX zVyjrLCp3MHYBdctDYifYa1pvtL5NwntKsxGt72SYyzrQI8TH9lzP1g5AT2rnNqGQ61R Tklw761MHu+iAVnjQ3nFx3kH7c7lfP9Gt527Ap0qBvOrZ9Gr0iSlr3KPhiyIj0rsdTbX vDm/9HEgwiKmOuHOGbOoBS7Q/4TaL7v21NT5TNKg7usbbM7HPya5MIqaYi7zWlx2/z9B EoIA== X-Received: by 10.49.62.164 with SMTP id z4mr5152534qer.34.1356711995545; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:26:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.82.112 with SMTP id h16ls4668154qey.0.gmail; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:26:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.116.1 with SMTP id js1mr5199781qeb.19.1356711994971; Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:26:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:26:34 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Chevalier To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <5ac1df3c-f17c-44a7-97cd-c2fd82fff9f8@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <6a7fd079-93fd-46ee-8c8b-ddb489d40ad4@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Use of gismu components in lujvo MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: chevalieradam2@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_172_12921479.1356711994657" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_172_12921479.1356711994657 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all your help, and I'd like to apologize for being rude earlier.= =20 There was no call for it. On Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:03:04 AM UTC-6, Efrain wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Adam Chevalier=20 > > wrote:=20 > > > @Pierre: Thank you, that was helpful. I don't quite understand, but I'm= =20 > sure=20 > > understanding will dawn on me as my lojban skills strengthen.=20 > >=20 > > What do the scores for each of the lujvo represent?=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Here: http://dag.github.com/cll/4/3/ it says:=20 > > All brivla have the following properties:=20 > > 1.always end in a vowel;=20 > > 2.always contain a consonant pair in the first five letters, where =93y= =94=20 > and apostrophe are not counted as letters for this purpose. (See Section= =20 > 6.)=20 > > 3.always are stressed on the next-to-the-last (penultimate) syllable;= =20 > this implies that they have two or more syllables.=20 > > Read the second point and let's take ro'i and cei. By just putting=20 > them together we get "ro'icei". The first five letters are "roice"=20 > (the apostrophe doesn't count) which do not have any pair of=20 > consonants. So the rule that Pierre mentions comes in. You place "r"=20 > between ro'i and cei and get ro'ircei. Now "roirc" complies with the=20 > rules of making brivla because of the "rc" consonant pair.=20 > > mu'o mi'e betsemes=20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/w18mQuHcF9oJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_172_12921479.1356711994657 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all your help, and I'd like to apologize for being rude earlier.= There was no call for it.

On Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:03:04 AM= UTC-6, Efrain wrote:
On Wed, D= ec 19, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Adam Chevalier
<chevali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @Pierre: Thank you, that was helpful. I don't quite understand, bu= t I'm sure
> understanding will dawn on me as my lojban skills strengthen.
>
> What do the scores for each of the lujvo represent?
>
>

Here: http= ://dag.github.com/cll/4/3/ it says:
> All brivla have the following properties:
> 1.always end in a vowel;
> 2.always contain a consonant pair in the first five letters, where= =93y=94 and apostrophe are not counted as letters for this purpose. (See S= ection 6.)
> 3.always are stressed on the next-to-the-last (penultimate) syllab= le; this implies that they have two or more syllables.

Read the second point and let's take ro'i and cei. By just putting
them together we get "ro'icei". The first five letters are "roice"
(the apostrophe doesn't count) which do not have any pair of
consonants. So the rule that Pierre mentions comes in. You place "r"
between ro'i and cei and get ro'ircei. Now "roirc" complies with the
rules of making brivla because of the "rc" consonant pair.

mu'o mi'e betsemes

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