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What is your opinion in the current situation? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93998eba0cb6004d1f57f60 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93998eba0cb6004d1f57f60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wasn't it replaced by http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Community+Work ? On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:51:07PM +0100, v4hn wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:53:29AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > There is no real task list at this time. The big projects I > > > have in my head are the CLL updates for xorlo, finishing a > > > dictionary and making a less crappy jbovlaste. > > > > > > -Robin > > > > What's up with http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Procedure and the > > checkpoints? I know it says "obsolete" there, but still it is well > > thought out and looks like a good infrastracture to get going > > again. > > No-one did any of the work; eventually I got tired of doing all the > work myself, and/or *constantly* having to harass people. > > That's a slight exaggeration, but only slight; certainly other > people helped, extensively in some cases, but it was *always* a > struggle, and eventually I stopped struggling, and nothing has > happened since. > > This happens a lot around here. > > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae93998eba0cb6004d1f57f60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wasn't it replaced by http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Community+Work ?

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10= :51:07PM +0100, v4hn wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:53:29AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > There is no real task list at this time. =A0The big projects I > > have in my head are the CLL updates for xorlo, finishing a
> > dictionary and making a less crappy jbovlaste.
> >
> > -Robin
>
> What's up with http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Procedure and the<= br> > checkpoints? I know it says "obsolete" there, but still it i= s well
> thought out and looks like a good infrastracture to get going
> again.

No-one did any of the work; eventually I got tired of doing all the work myself, and/or *constantly* having to harass people.

That's a slight exaggeration, but only slight; certainly other
people helped, extensively in some cases, but it was *always* a
struggle, and eventually I stopped struggling, and nothing has
happened since.

This happens a lot around here.

-Robin

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.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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