Received: from mail-ob0-f190.google.com ([209.85.214.190]:37142) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TpUKU-0005jH-JI; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:23 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f190.google.com with SMTP id ta14sf7446614obb.27 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=GiS5cVapgdz7qjCH7i+YdLnwn3SofX0FmlTqkpFAB3s=; b=P3Ztq2xtwaJhGU91quqc4NTx/oXqTnB6tBfQeMEJwQcvBw/7amf8DvHyudMnJMewhK Gi+bVOB8NYQEHgkSfnfnINogImnalrRwyioGksxl/X/r12Ry8ADIbgrYqma4zNPmGYkT AS9doHgXqpsD1860iYvtl6buoA7u6wMeZC/rS/VxSUZchU2v3UrNhP/g7Fjmqz0F+F/W okkATZLOF1fpRu5xN77tZOxkS0/MMdkccmHoREdVcduiFeQDBSKrvSvwHovEJ932MiRA 7XGAGCzXNoQyVcLRgonBI+6A3Pek4CqpK4efafwKzz41IkGpIItWy1HpN5arZSbue0WN Ne+Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=GiS5cVapgdz7qjCH7i+YdLnwn3SofX0FmlTqkpFAB3s=; b=QAwqcBT9tEr2XAunkob7r8ekDLt/d3L5z5DFQoD595Z3kG9+LT0qOsPmn5PvtRrtzu 8FLTZzX6zTAzIuVzQ+l6Q7FLhN/avMpw10hqZCwqECIxHNzVtvERrk2/FElQzlTek9FN BRBmgrzK8LVfwV2acIe4F4Zz+/B43Aw+U7ZxLALx0TvM3Tfuwxjk1PLKPm5nKUxjX1bG 31Bmh35ZB3jNj7aXczf4AZCSlop2IuBgPOV4Q6tZoAGgRDeeK1y28PDHYGnR/aX0tr2A 8pLMFL3G3EYodXYtAof4NPk8GmL/h30Qa7BrRehQEqvoUVKKsE7tOo1mVBVFRu+k7PVP ulmA== X-Received: by 10.50.47.228 with SMTP id g4mr10939544ign.12.1356917887845; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:07 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.160.202 with SMTP id xm10ls7963538igb.27.canary; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.53.231 with SMTP id e7mr35047619igp.1.1356917886945; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.53.231 with SMTP id e7mr35047617igp.1.1356917886923; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vb4si2957211igb.2.2012.12.30.17.38.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.177; Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id uo13so11302072obb.36 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.235.46 with SMTP id uj14mr32647245obc.40.1356917886628; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:38:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Secondary meaning of {cevni} From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b60249f331e04d21c106f X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93b60249f331e04d21c106f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:28 PM, .arpis. wrote: > xu se cumki smuni lo ka ce'u ge angeli gi cevni {cevni} can refer to many different things, but not angels. Gods, goddesses, demi-god(esse)s, oni, and so on and so forth. But not angels. Angels are not gods, they aren't even god-like. Except for maybe the archangels, they're barely above humans, and in many ways are lower on the totem pole (like the complete lack of free will, emotion, or creativity, for example). -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae93b60249f331e04d21c106f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:28 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
xu se cumki smuni lo ka ce'u ge angeli gi cevni

{= cevni} can refer to many different things, but not angels. Gods, goddesses,= demi-god(esse)s, oni, and so on and so forth.

But not angels. Angel= s are not gods, they aren't even god-like. Except for maybe the archang= els, they're barely above humans, and in many ways are lower on the tot= em pole (like the complete lack of free will, emotion, or creativity, for e= xample).

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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