Received: from mail-ie0-f190.google.com ([209.85.223.190]:33058) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TpUL7-0005kc-N6; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:39:05 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f190.google.com with SMTP id k10sf7260061iea.7 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=+yyqGkGNb20MKfyIwjl9UzkbIC7IjpLfVALp1NFve+I=; b=iGlD5p8N99UjUq/T7Q4fam1jinuyKvuVkpKboxreeSekDT3VtBIdfrUpDuwDvJw0cm baOoxwcIceb2Bazwofd+nW4JSMkxD8YpFO8mxEA/aa20hAsRBkIKFK9NG8iE0R8PfE+T L7xntdKn6vyCNA6nWrOexMhHssXygVZAmatmTQyDsDuU9zMs5ZgZ084brrju1md8Xf2w aTYCNbDVD+3yYI9li2qfLWj3DxsbqwKaKqjbBb4aiuGTd0Mw+x6C7+St6E0iJ4kdtjDv oIOX4MaUtpBFt8YAobsJyY/Upnd9OdUOaXRNZVrrQFX22De+rGxq/uJr/3WNnMVgioku hOuA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=+yyqGkGNb20MKfyIwjl9UzkbIC7IjpLfVALp1NFve+I=; b=BR1kok72HwhpvK4JJDslMQSi4e85Zvt25RDqMff4HwBIz6invhGEhs1vXU7r4e6Iaa IJuipgvjTnXq3w+6UzgMvNjYysC2l9muOq3jkf4oY2sVNhiETl54F2IxFVUPF/VNami/ q9IAMEjp1cqrXmIr3R2sqLbevP0suAasqZLY44iS611HxXlbMH4jw/uQbPSv8Z2lxBlW 5OM228bGxpixryyNKnjVDxXAylgDC4VjIggOgs00yt9Iv2PcLjsr34Ghhj4dM/dgEpZX G+M4lt9ugjhiMo52zqckzkX0yPh9uj4JtclSy7KdTL8yojsG6chi1R81qvE+zQcC7YnZ wcIQ== X-Received: by 10.50.47.228 with SMTP id g4mr10939698ign.12.1356917927521; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.15.168 with SMTP id y8ls13184106igc.42.canary; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.81.196 with SMTP id zz4mr30466005icb.14.1356917927084; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.81.196 with SMTP id zz4mr30466004icb.14.1356917927068; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si4223658iga.1.2012.12.30.17.38.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x4so11055072obh.24 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.212.2 with SMTP id ng2mr32463454obc.81.1356917926812; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:38:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:38:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Secondary meaning of {cevni} From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6438f2045d4a04d21c13b9 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f6438f2045d4a04d21c13b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Even demons, and if you stretch the meaning /really/ far, djinn. On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:28 PM, .arpis. wrote: > >> xu se cumki smuni lo ka ce'u ge angeli gi cevni > > > {cevni} can refer to many different things, but not angels. Gods, > goddesses, demi-god(esse)s, oni, and so on and so forth. > > But not angels. Angels are not gods, they aren't even god-like. Except for > maybe the archangels, they're barely above humans, and in many ways are > lower on the totem pole (like the complete lack of free will, emotion, or > creativity, for example). > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jonathan Jones <e= yeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:28 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gma= il.com> wrote:
xu se cumki smuni lo ka ce'u ge angeli gi cevni

<= /div>{cevni} can refer to many different things, but not angels. Gods, godd= esses, demi-god(esse)s, oni, and so on and so forth.

But not angels.= Angels are not gods, they aren't even god-like. Except for maybe the a= rchangels, they're barely above humans, and in many ways are lower on t= he totem pole (like the complete lack of free will, emotion, or creativity,= for example).

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )



--
mu'o = mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi= .luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father= . :D )

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