Received: from mail-da0-f59.google.com ([209.85.210.59]:63098) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TpW4A-00078F-0j; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f59.google.com with SMTP id p8sf7492614dan.24 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8xk9DcQuVY0mhj+yb3Y9mHY81lKxo6B7JryUopX7cXI=; b=pQaoreCJl9Xx10ebFbI73l8NuP/fb4qB+oFjjq9u9tLZRjamiL3p5mLxvDv6hAurO5 jS8AQOLv4HYYbcFisIYnxLFUoXJM/futdJ9TWCvAeUw31dW2U8AZk/xqOKuyc7U8uQA/ o+tQEcnZjAjovhsrNiC01H3kXwUtUDDviXnuERXUReMeTuDLZzsRKD0GNP/+hcdwvaYu cLbcgbfkaXUZ0E/gqIabbggfJEATpKceQ18OwsK85olUS4tkxG74tLVp8SP86l0fxZbq qMDsHGwQ13Bblv+fVJJBS3F+uVtQGuRArP0eB3fqSv4LHS9WEhr5+a2IOHwNngMtSDws flJw== X-Received: by 10.49.75.9 with SMTP id y9mr5990873qev.9.1356924563595; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.106.164 with SMTP id gv4ls5407576qeb.35.gmail; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.216.100 with SMTP id op4mr19893450vec.25.1356924562309; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.216.100 with SMTP id op4mr19893449vec.25.1356924562301; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pi.meson.org (pi.meson.org. [96.56.207.26]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id q13si12301877vdh.0.2012.12.30.19.29.22; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) client-ip=96.56.207.26; Received: (qmail 29189 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2012 03:29:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagas.meson.org) (192.168.1.101) by 192.168.1.100 with SMTP; 31 Dec 2012 03:29:21 -0000 Message-ID: <50E10690.6080002@kli.org> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:29:20 -0500 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121029 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] placement of "da'i" References: <2079829.I1Pp0tMRcn@caracal> <50E10461.3060903@kli.org> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: mark@kli.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) smtp.mail=mark@kli.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 12/30/2012 10:22 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Mark E. Shoulson > wrote: > > On 12/30/2012 10:16 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > Let's suppose that no cross between an Eskimo and a Pintupi > exists (which is > probably true, as Eskimos live in the cold north, and Pintupis > live in the > desert of Northern Territory and Western Australia). I ask a > question: "lo > ginxre be lo skimale .e lo pintupi cu xabju ma?" This should > have a "da'i" in > it. Where would you put it? > > Pierre > > After the {lo}. > > > da'i is a UI, it attaches to the preceding word. Exactly, and to the grammatical unit bounded by that word (I think I didn't make that up). Just as attaching it to the .i would attach it to the whole sentence, putting it after {lo} attaches it to the entire sumti-phrase. Otherwise, you could put it after the {be'o} that was elided. ~mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.