Received: from mail-vb0-f57.google.com ([209.85.212.57]:49171) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TpW4T-00079N-9D; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:30:20 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f57.google.com with SMTP id ez10sf7159427vbb.12 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=0cz2Z6b8Oz0WDIrpn4Pvfj65dsHi6gKcNWizP+ioMt0=; b=Uge2pk5/c6Bp3HgxvotCzw6jCSt75QPs555c9WRvB3JwnLKbCp2pyiQuRBSGKs0zmk gT4hftA8o1aB4wGJ898odPpmeMYw8A9iO1IQNXJ3hBOWQY3FWhW6RngV02XgmZAN0h5Q V1NLGfATf9Jbg6XC8XzAUGvjhnR9tf0L7wmUQ+wFNFbS6qrfaoG3xtSAT+Q4YYWt7yOY 9RWPCK8O+i17ckahCf84BIHhy6TNuRptBLHpt1Gv43xbmleooYdF07MkbwRWjr/CivUi POMSZoqAM1+YtU0wdI1Spjul9O1pm8JQbnXEcnWc9BgIJ9mjVBdOhimU7VLflGwHrRWK iDqw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=0cz2Z6b8Oz0WDIrpn4Pvfj65dsHi6gKcNWizP+ioMt0=; b=e7GpuoLyQXaloHxNcA13wcjSOHt8eXWVkBt1wIojfhFLacOv/WtkkSlWk9MlIQTlyy xVieVWD42v8j92UR2/JqvUE4WUbzcjjcArguWOXDomA6NXgZ0hvkMzDNvFMEUBbab2mw CA3GbaJ7Z/XLzregF70dFGBRm17mzBMLieq/jEwGbkHkjh0JpLkw4pCVyCrqEYTJ6XHn +QOj3kPs5mfnvtj6uBZmOZX7AniwV3OcpQNXQThm9jCmasHD+Lb+WYJPKI7ljVyqk7zL 22c+N6Iptvc8VbHyf+Ig8XKn3Fj7cbPXHJP83wK2mbvxDz9b6LtNiylLxviMd/nZb6J4 P6Xg== X-Received: by 10.50.220.231 with SMTP id pz7mr13141497igc.8.1356924582278; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.193.134 with SMTP id ho6ls11924682igc.23.canary; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.82.37 with SMTP id f5mr5350591pay.27.1356924581599; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.82.37 with SMTP id f5mr5350590pay.27.1356924581589; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id js4si7895797pbb.2.2012.12.30.19.29.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.46; Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id bh2so6911492pad.19 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.134.232 with SMTP id pn8mr122705602pbb.47.1356924581503; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:29:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2079829.I1Pp0tMRcn@caracal> <50E10461.3060903@kli.org> From: ".arpis." Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:29:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] placement of "da'i" To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10c861aae3c004d21d9f5c X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b10c861aae3c004d21d9f5c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think the CLL implies that attaching a UI to a gadri distributes it over the entire sumti formed. Look at the example of bi'u/bi'unai here: http://dag.github.com/cll/13/13/ On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > >> On 12/30/2012 10:16 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> Let's suppose that no cross between an Eskimo and a Pintupi exists >>> (which is >>> probably true, as Eskimos live in the cold north, and Pintupis live in >>> the >>> desert of Northern Territory and Western Australia). I ask a question: >>> "lo >>> ginxre be lo skimale .e lo pintupi cu xabju ma?" This should have a >>> "da'i" in >>> it. Where would you put it? >>> >>> Pierre >>> >> After the {lo}. >> > > da'i is a UI, it attaches to the preceding word. > > >> ~mark >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** >> googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/lojban?hl=en . >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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I think the CLL implies that attaching a UI to a gadr= i distributes it over the entire sumti formed.

Look at the exa= mple of bi'u/bi'unai here: http://dag.github.com/cll/13/13/


On Sun,= Dec 30, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org>= ; wrote:
On 12/30/2012 10:16 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
Let's suppose that no cross between an Eskimo and a Pintupi exists (whi= ch is
probably true, as Eskimos live in the cold north, and Pintupis live in the<= br> desert of Northern Territory and Western Australia). I ask a question: &quo= t;lo
ginxre be lo skimale .e lo pintupi cu xabju ma?" This should have a &q= uot;da'i" in
it. Where would you put it?

Pierre
After the {lo}.

da'i is a UI, it attaches to the preceding word.
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~mark


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