Received: from mail-ea0-f186.google.com ([209.85.215.186]:48843) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TpeSz-0001Rt-Qh; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:50 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f186.google.com with SMTP id c1sf5083033eaa.23 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=k7LCCw3DKV7y58UC7GxuMKEbDP5ZZ8z3lnR1RQsoFSs=; b=HVbXRYjWD7PbTpdNXZWBECPn687Joi/ZDDE11GaKeZx+Qxh63vLRCzAbvw/ZzetAcb SiSxoCfjCNOT8xN7Uc5JroQW4RHy9NaIJE3paf1KMxpLCpoI3HxjaUxhZzcZ+wGMFZ8K JeHXJVGgZzHZvrd3gHtSNpgH010qqSgdvVRDC9au7Dl1GrUnIbLDrMySuo6IzCqUGca6 HcoC3ZP7DO85M1nwAW30+8zry+jZJAD9RWPfP1ThnDoEkPl6SFJnnD8xLUFaMrxItM8E 4IqjNBnaKf9tVE6xLxq82MCc0wNKEAjB6Sag6B9vuxJAXl7iXTI9jZzjN35BXfWhsFP9 vP3g== X-Received: by 10.180.24.42 with SMTP id r10mr6670401wif.14.1356956853857; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:33 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.8.193 with SMTP id t1ls6102542wia.14.canary; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.179.198 with SMTP id h46mr50468819eem.4.1356956853256; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.179.198 with SMTP id h46mr50468817eem.4.1356956853243; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9si874326eeo.1.2012.12.31.04.27.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbaa5a3.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.165.163]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7848C865022 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:27:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:27:32 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Distinguishing between free and bound variables Message-ID: <20121231122731.GD32434@samsa.fritz.box> References: <1356899917.25852.76.camel@thomas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1356899917.25852.76.camel@thomas> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 03:38:37PM -0500, Robert Slaughter wrote: > On Sun, 2012-12-30 at 09:39 -0800, la gleki wrote: >=20 > > {ju'o do na skudji lo nu do cliva mi} >=20 > Please always include an English gloss, because the number of people, > even hereon the main list, who can sight-read lojban can probably be > counted on one hand. Hopefully in binary at least, that would at least increase the bound to 31.. That sentence is not difficult at all in my opinion. {.u'i} Maybe {ju'o do na skudji lonu ba'e broda} "Surely you don't mean to say -something unspecified-" works? That way you leave the different values for your /X/ up to context. Honestly speaking, I'm not really sure I understood your english example. What is it supposed to mean? I can't find a scenario in which the /X/ would not take a specific value depending on context. v4hn --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlDhhLMACgkQMBKLZs4+wjzsRACeK0a220A/Ray6+R9Fh6gLdrHb NEYAoJ1zHyr6YelZiHOaF6mI7pm9C1et =rKnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP--