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On 12/30/2012 11:21 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org 
> <mailto:mark@kli.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 12/30/2012 10:22 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>
>         On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Mark E. Shoulson
>         <mark@kli.org <mailto:mark@kli.org> <mailto:mark@kli.org
>         <mailto:mark@kli.org>>> wrote:
>             On 12/30/2012 10:16 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
>                 Let's suppose that no cross between an Eskimo and a
>         Pintupi
>                 exists (which is
>                 probably true, as Eskimos live in the cold north, and
>         Pintupis
>                 live in the
>                 desert of Northern Territory and Western Australia). I
>         ask a
>                 question: "lo
>                 ginxre be lo skimale .e lo pintupi cu xabju ma?" This
>         should
>                 have a "da'i" in
>                 it. Where would you put it?
>
>                 Pierre
>
>             After the {lo}.
>
>
>         da'i is a UI, it attaches to the preceding word.
>
>     Exactly, and to the grammatical unit bounded by that word (I think
>     I didn't make that up).  Just as attaching it to the .i would
>     attach it to the whole sentence, putting it after {lo} attaches it
>     to the entire sumti-phrase.
>
>     Otherwise, you could put it after the {be'o} that was elided.
>
>
> Right. Duh. I don't know why I forgot that. Which lo, though?

The first one.  {lo da'i ginxre ...}

~mark

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