wrote: > >> coi, >> >> what's the difference, if any, between >> >> {lo sumti} and {lo terbri}, >> >> and >> >> {lo selsu'i} and {lo selbri} >> >> ? >> >> I would appreciate a good answer about this matter. >> >> a'o ki'emu'omi'e jongausib >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/mcDpoMfv2jAJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8f9218ee6d9db704d228ebc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Equally, the terbri is a list of sumti, as they fill the selbri to produce = the bridi. Using the functional definition of bridi,

bridi =3D x1 (du&#= 39;u) is a predication with relationship type x2 (ka) produced from sumti x= 3

You can think of it like this: take the selbri with its ce'u-place= "holes" and fill them in order with sumti from the list in the x= 3. The result is the bridi1, namely a du'u.

e.g. {.i lo du'u mi klama lo zarci cu bridi lo ka ce'u klama ce'= ;u ce'u ce'u ce'u kei mi ce'o lo zarci}

(In pract= ice, ce'u-places can be left out because they're implicit.)

I=A0used the non-logical connective {ce'o} for the = terbri, but this can cause problems when the selbri expects a list, which c= an be produced from {ce'o}. For that purpose, there's an experiment= al cmavo, {ce'oi}, that exists just for these "argument lists"= ;.

As for the actualy difference between {sumti} and {brid= i}, sumti1 is a single exact sumti that fills the sumti3-th place of sumti2= , whereas bridi3 is a list of sumti that when applied to the function in br= idi2 yields the predication bridi1.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 31 December 2012 11:20, .arpis. <<= a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rpglover64+= jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

The difference is in focus = and in relation; {lo sumti} refers to a sumti in any context, but {lo terbr= i} refers to the sumti of a particular bridi.

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 5:02 AM, jongausib <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
coi,

what's the difference, if any, between

{lo sumti} a= nd {lo terbri},

and

{lo selsu'i} and {lo selbri}

?=

I would appreciate a good answer about this matter.

a'o = ki'emu'omi'e jongausib

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