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On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:23 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> 2. The CLL is useless pretty much. It doesn't teach people language.
>

  mi  cmima lo'i prenu poi pu cilre fi la lojban cylyly .i mi noroi tcidu
la'oi L4B  .ije li'a lo me la'oi  wave  me'u jai velcli pu na zasti .i ku'i
je'u mi se verclibau la gliban

         --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at=
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te:<br>
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etty much. It doesn&#39;t teach people language.</div></blockquote><div><br=
>
</div><div>=A0 mi =A0cmima lo&#39;i prenu poi pu cilre fi la lojban cylyly =
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=A0me&#39;u jai velcli pu na zasti .i ku&#39;i je&#39;u mi se verclibau la =
gliban</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa</div><div><br></div></div>=
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