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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I'd like mine to be the official one. It requires more work on my end yet before I consider it in good enough shape to submit as a proposal. There are not substantive differences, right now, between jbogenturfa'i and camxes. The files are different at the bit-level, but the parser level produces the same result. Robin and I have shared patches as errata have come up. [...] Content analysis details: (2.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to DNSWL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [209.85.161.184 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.4 BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD 0.6 INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD Invalid Date: header (timezone does not exist) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature I'd like mine to be the official one. It requires more work on my end yet before I consider it in good enough shape to submit as a proposal. There are not substantive differences, right now, between jbogenturfa'i and camxes. The files are different at the bit-level, but the parser level produces the same result. Robin and I have shared patches as errata have come up. The grammars will diverge when I merge my magic-word work. I got burned out on that effort last year and have been trying to restart it. It is standing in the way of other work I'd also like to do. So far life keeps intervening. mi'e .alyn. On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 03:58:26PM -0500, Frank wrote: > So, I'm a wee bit confused and I apologize if this was brought up before. > Is there a "de facto" standard for the would-be PEG grammar of lojban? Is > it .alyn.'s? Robin's? Are We going by the principle of "Anyone willing to > 'roll Their own' can, if not*should,*do so*and We'll sort out the > differences later"? > Just curious. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- my personal website: http://c0redump.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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