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It requires more work on my > end yet before I consider it in good enough shape to submit as a > proposal. > > There are not substantive differences, right now, between > jbogenturfa'i and camxes. The files are different at the bit-level, > but the parser level produces the same result. Robin and I have > shared patches as errata have come up. > > The grammars will diverge when I merge my magic-word work. I got > burned out on that effort last year and have been trying to restart > it. It is standing in the way of other work I'd also like to do. > So far life keeps intervening. > You mean, because you'll /have/ magic-word parsing, which no other parser has as of yet? > > mi'e .alyn. > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 03:58:26PM -0500, Frank wrote: > > So, I'm a wee bit confused and I apologize if this was brought up > before. > > Is there a "de facto" standard for the would-be PEG grammar of > lojban? Is > > it .alyn.'s? Robin's? Are We going by the principle of "Anyone > willing to > > 'roll Their own' can, if not*should,*do so*and We'll sort out the > > differences later"? > > Just curious. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > my personal website: http://c0redump.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:07 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
I'd like mine to be the official one. =A0It requires more work on my end yet before I consider it in good enough shape to submit as a
proposal.

There are not substantive differences, right now, between
jbogenturfa'i and camxes. =A0The files are different at the bit-level,<= br> but the parser level produces the same result. =A0Robin and I have
shared patches as errata have come up.

The grammars will diverge when I merge my magic-word work. =A0I got
burned out on that effort last year and have been trying to restart
it. =A0It is standing in the way of other work I'd also like to do.
So far life keeps intervening.

You mean, because y= ou'll /have/ magic-word parsing, which no other parser has as of yet? <= br>

mi'e .alyn.

On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 03:58:26PM -0500, Frank wrote:
> =A0 =A0So, I'm a wee bit confused and I apologize if this was brou= ght up before.
> =A0 =A0Is there a "de facto" standard for the would-be PEG g= rammar of lojban? Is
> =A0 =A0it .alyn.'s? Robin's? Are We going by the principle of = "Anyone willing to
> =A0 =A0'roll Their own' can, if not*should,*do so*and We= 'll sort out the
> =A0 =A0differences later"?
> =A0 =A0Just curious.
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