Received: from mail-ob0-f191.google.com ([209.85.214.191]:51576) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqWUb-0002C3-Td; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:09:07 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f191.google.com with SMTP id uo13sf8849350obb.28 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=w/BX/zVupU7gM+amZ6VIJeif++4ahu/Xda8f3Too/bI=; b=Bfs3csaou8qrTucdZhgNlv47jqnnm4ZoU3DJ/R6YyA1FNBdbDr0mciT0ysFedtoQJq NaeUsdZMJfw0vhc/yFZfbDyl4RqdwyF8TimdtBEtOH62xZiuusbzOAkeDr4Mgx8rK1RE 0zvZU7o895BfXAVuNPmC6QIpQxBJ3uBaDzND91CWzRy4xuvC7zp/RhqNwA0VyGvvEvjm tcUqa3BzHsOWldRRNdliOoKnZHZonhfjE2Ezi1m/UcLF7JpF2wA8xVoPHwdQsmYhPtaX 2NC6Il2bP+DeYumceBJQfMz5sbnvqJH1GSD36qmKUyUvEQTJRUsnKpy+s0HJ2ccYTr6L KliQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=w/BX/zVupU7gM+amZ6VIJeif++4ahu/Xda8f3Too/bI=; b=QtMeFcXs/2c0e1/Psc6BsmLs32zxB7y5DaaDh+Wha5Bbn6NKUapBRM9/GBVelp3AjX Gfd+hwRWXg7LWpY8f4OmFovdmo488EhBNegf2oE/9KyZK+GCW6nJ5XZ5cMDV5kziUQ+U CBM8Zf5GjWOR2Sko041JVWrhXzJCFFsd06qIMBsFa1oYtNuN3+7ml9kQtJor8MS1NoEM FnfQNDaMyIYBFxW9O7Vq7Qrs9/vq20VfMK66PvVkbKoAZ+ks/P7/ZquGnsnC0cCJkA3W DQYyOuoUGvQqUwN38Z3w02Duv2RZeOxMWUDm8oghzWhSgRomP5jo/dCntWvIoRfhylB1 P6CQ== X-Received: by 10.50.7.244 with SMTP id m20mr13175757iga.14.1357164531662; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.191.231 with SMTP id hb7ls11049954igc.9.gmail; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.80.140 with SMTP id v12mr36534678ick.5.1357164531201; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.80.140 with SMTP id v12mr36534676ick.5.1357164531151; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7si4978240igl.0.2013.01.02.14.08.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.180; Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wd20so12908072obb.25 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.38.69 with SMTP id e5mr38623395obk.79.1357164530874; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:08:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130102220529.GV18038@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20130102210716.GA8967@sunflowerriver.org> <20130102220529.GV18038@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:08:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] PEG confusion From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462f0ec3bad904d2557d08 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04462f0ec3bad904d2557d08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 02:27:12PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:07 PM, .alyn.post. > > wrote: > > > > > I'd like mine to be the official one. It requires more work on > > > my end yet before I consider it in good enough shape to submit > > > as a proposal. > > > > > > There are not substantive differences, right now, between > > > jbogenturfa'i and camxes. The files are different at the > > > bit-level, but the parser level produces the same result. Robin > > > and I have shared patches as errata have come up. > > > > > > The grammars will diverge when I merge my magic-word work. I > > > got burned out on that effort last year and have been trying to > > > restart it. It is standing in the way of other work I'd also > > > like to do. So far life keeps intervening. > > > > > > > You mean, because you'll /have/ magic-word parsing, which no other > > parser has as of yet? > > camxes most certainly *does* have magic word parsing: > Well, si is easy. IIRC, sa and su aren't working in jbosku or .camxes., and there are some magic word combos that aren't worked out either, like zo si (although I'm sure zo si is worked out to be: zo si = "si", zo si si = "".) > rlpowell@stodi> echo 'mi klama lo nu do klama si si sutra' | camxes > text > sentence > |- CMAVO > | KOhA: mi > |- bridiTail3 > |- BRIVLA > | gismu: klama > |- sumti6 > |- CMAVO > | LE: lo > |- tanruUnit2 > |- CMAVO > | NU: nu > |- BRIVLA > gismu: sutra > > -Robin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Robin Lee Powell= <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 02:27:12PM -0700, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:07 PM, .alyn.post.
> <alyn.post@lodock= ikumazvati.org>wrote:
>
> > I'd like mine to be the official one. =A0It requires more wor= k on
> > my end yet before I consider it in good enough shape to submit > > as a proposal.
> >
> > There are not substantive differences, right now, between
> > jbogenturfa'i and camxes. =A0The files are different at the > > bit-level, but the parser level produces the same result. =A0Robi= n
> > and I have shared patches as errata have come up.
> >
> > The grammars will diverge when I merge my magic-word work. =A0I > > got burned out on that effort last year and have been trying to > > restart it. =A0It is standing in the way of other work I'd al= so
> > like to do. So far life keeps intervening.
> >
>
> You mean, because you'll /have/ magic-word parsing, which no other=
> parser has as of yet?

camxes most certainly *does* have magic word parsing:

Well, si is easy. IIRC, sa and su aren't working in jbosku or= .camxes., and there are some magic word combos that aren't worked out = either, like zo si (although I'm sure zo si is worked out to be: zo si = =3D "si", zo si si =3D "".)
=A0
rlpowell@stodi> echo 'mi klama lo nu do klama si si sutra' | cam= xes
text
=A0 =A0sentence
=A0 =A0|- CMAVO
=A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 KOhA: mi
=A0 =A0|- bridiTail3
=A0 =A0 =A0 |- BRIVLA
=A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 gismu: klama
=A0 =A0 =A0 |- sumti6
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|- CMAVO
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 LE: lo
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|- tanruUnit2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |- CMAVO
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 NU: nu
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |- BRIVLA
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 gismu: sutra

-Robin

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