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New page added with nitcion translation of "the fox and the grapes".

Any contribution/comment/feedback is welcome!

mu'o mi'e la remod


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

> What fool am I? I should have checked before. Of course some Aesop fables
> were already translated in the pre-xorlo era by Nick Nicholas!
> I didn't check if it was before or after the great rafsi reallocation.
>
> I'll try to check with Nick if he's fine with me re-adapting them to a
> post-xorlo version.
>
> mu'o mi'e la remod.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've translated one of the Aesop fable ("The Crab and hist Mother") and
>> posted it here:
>>
>> http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/
>>
>> Aesop seems a good choice for translating into Lojban as the text is
>> rather short, there's no copyright and it is available in many languages.
>>
>> I intended to start from project Gutenberg text (
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/19994) but I noticed the English version
>> is rather different from the original!
>> So, for this translation I relied more on the Italian translation (
>> http://www.lafeltrinelli.it/products/9788854138476/Favole_Testo_greco_a_fronte_Ediz_Integrale/Esopo.html)
>> that matches the Greek text (
>> http://mythfolklore.net/aesopica/chambry/151.htm) much better.
>>
>> If anyone has made other Aesop translations and wants me to publish it,
>> let me know, I'll be happy to add them.
>>
>> As usual, please let me know of any mistake I might have made.
>>
>> mu'o mi'e la .remod.
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>New page added with nitcion translation of &quot=
;the fox and the grapes&quot;.<br><br></div>Any contribution/comment/feedba=
ck is welcome!<br><br></div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la remod<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Remo Den=
tato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>What fool am I? I should have checked before. Of cour=
se some Aesop fables were already translated in the pre-xorlo era by Nick N=
icholas!<br>I didn&#39;t check if it was before or after the great rafsi re=
allocation.<br>

<br>I&#39;ll try to check with Nick if he&#39;s fine with me re-adapting th=
em to a post-xorlo version.<br><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la remod.<b=
r></div><div><br></div><br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>I&#39;ve translated one of the Ae=
sop fable (&quot;The Crab and hist Mother&quot;) and posted it here:<br><br=
><a href=3D"http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/</a><br>


<br></div>Aesop seems a good choice for translating into Lojban as the text=
 is rather short, there&#39;s no copyright and it is available in many lang=
uages.<br><br></div>I intended to start from project Gutenberg text (<a hre=
f=3D"http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/19994" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gu=
tenberg.org/ebooks/19994</a>) but I noticed the English version is rather d=
ifferent from the original!<br>


So, for this translation I relied more on the Italian translation (<a href=
=3D"http://www.lafeltrinelli.it/products/9788854138476/Favole_Testo_greco_a=
_fronte_Ediz_Integrale/Esopo.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.lafeltrinel=
li.it/products/9788854138476/Favole_Testo_greco_a_fronte_Ediz_Integrale/Eso=
po.html</a>) that matches the Greek text (<a href=3D"http://mythfolklore.ne=
t/aesopica/chambry/151.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://mythfolklore.net/aesop=
ica/chambry/151.htm</a>) much better.<br>


<br></div>If anyone has made other Aesop translations and wants me to publi=
sh it, let me know, I&#39;ll be happy to add them.<br><br></div>As usual, p=
lease let me know of any mistake I might have made.<br><br></div>mu&#39;o m=
i&#39;e la .remod.<br>


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