Received: from mail-ia0-f188.google.com ([209.85.210.188]:50504) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TrtVt-0002Sp-TO; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:56:10 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f188.google.com with SMTP id j38sf10886758iad.25 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=MdOId1Mabr+Ox9/Jj+YUe9sLkPcCCBbe3skRxF3HFYg=; b=sM0FkZme3KLmj7vATjMzs7Jib5YQqcmU1qwHnwh+HnJeiiHtV7yCk0TY/L3zbc2HXJ R22uZgb2HxetdfoViXf4Iqr8Tc9KB7mjGFXcWihEmGNr7ElFc0J1vPcbZ51mP0PfEQeZ FT67BlevqDxyszstZkdh3adnhsxD9V5LaTfJK8EID6zvHttHRBPwQ65Igzbf9FCO1Pjc TRAFMnP6E2MyiuIPgEHkpJ8vAr3liRerZpgx9XHqg9gsjn2G3JDtUuY1XfLCO2UmCDcC Os+DsK/NjB0viNI9uIXeQlpXVpXUcP4PdUZZeljhWit79GCdc4ZTBzf4fJonmCkvz4WK Swig== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=MdOId1Mabr+Ox9/Jj+YUe9sLkPcCCBbe3skRxF3HFYg=; b=NgITXCq5w7B39ejFXwSct8unNfbMMJwsZfODaDY8j2ceL+KIeTga0jUd1/Lo+lCmkh Zda4z8D33NVSnz0LQ3ZQfoyMwxNKzuEquT0jGsYxNWoQgl9/SRHsBGYSiEYRa+Jrof9l GN1Ajif+HxhDMmRnfKasB5ro95xHtItNroizs4qfKvjX4kAoVnGtYRjSR8K9O+eyiXGq /YklJakD8PbaTxKPNY6NOMcwJvJbXrvyh44zw+vMU64nPQOnY2C6/MCaZhd5guruX12Z RQz5wFRm3Pi6qVJHzy4APeyxDeIr6B01rAfvVMxLu/jVWYNIAYmqJw44g+mc7nf3dkjW bziQ== X-Received: by 10.50.7.244 with SMTP id m20mr1115720iga.14.1357491351414; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.33.139 with SMTP id r11ls1148985igi.16.canary; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.175.70 with SMTP id az6mr45906110icb.33.1357491350880; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.175.70 with SMTP id az6mr45906109icb.33.1357491350862; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vb13si350257igb.2.2013.01.06.08.55.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x4so16396682obh.38 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.38.69 with SMTP id e5mr42694407obk.79.1357491350733; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:55:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:55:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] APE: Lojban haiku From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462f0ebf03f404d2a19513 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04462f0ebf03f404d2a19513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: > It looks like you're using the old interpretation of ZAhO, namely > {za'o lo nu broda} -> {ca lo nu za'e broda}, but everyone on IRC these > days is using another interpretation, namely {broda za'o lo nu brode} > -> {za'o broda ca lo nu brode}, which has the advantage of not > implicitly modifying the contents of the tagged sumti (which no other > tags do). > Alright, then, if that's "Event X begins during the time of Event Y", then how does IRC say "Event X happens at the beginning of Event Y"? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jacob Errington = <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
It looks like you're using the old interpretation of Z= AhO, namely
{za'o lo nu broda} -> {ca lo nu za'e broda}, but everyone on IRC= these
days is using another interpretation, namely {broda za'o lo nu brode} -> {za'o broda ca lo nu brode}, which has the advantage of not
implicitly modifying the contents of the tagged sumti (which no other
tags do).

Alright, then, if that's "Ev= ent X begins during the time of Event Y", then how does IRC say "= Event X happens at the beginning of Event Y"?

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