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>
> As far as my haiku is concerned, the "old" interpretation and the "IRC"
> interpretation are near enough in meaning that I don't really feel it needs
> changing, however:
>

...They're not at all close in meaning, in fact they're closer to being
opposites than to being the same. The old {broda co'a lo nu brode} has
broda happening when brode begins; the new one has broda beginning when
brode is happening. A trivial example of the difference is if {lo nu brode}
lasts forever in a universe where "forever" extends infinitely in both
directions, then the new version is just {co'a broda} (every event is
simultaneous with an event that lasts forever), while the old version is
nonsensical.

So how does the IRC interpretation deal with {ZAhO lo broda ku ... [cu]
> ZAhO brode}?
>
In what sense? What semantics does it assign it, or how does it achieve the
old semantics of that statement? (I assume you dropped a {nu}).

mi'e la latro'a mu'o




>
>> Here's a possible fix, though it's already quite different from the
>> original, plus I really don't like the -cfa-:
>>
>> lo nunvesycfa
>> cu jai co'a rulba'o
>> ja'e lo nunmle
>>
>
> I wouldn't call that a fix. If anything, it's worse than the original, IMO.
>
>
>> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">As far as my haiku is con=
cerned, the &quot;old&quot; interpretation and the &quot;IRC&quot;=20
interpretation are near enough in meaning that I don&#39;t really feel it=
=20
needs changing, however:<br></blockquote><div>=A0<br>...They&#39;re not at =
all close in meaning, in fact they&#39;re closer to being opposites than to=
 being the same. The old {broda co&#39;a lo nu brode} has broda happening w=
hen brode begins; the new one has broda beginning when brode is happening. =
A trivial example of the difference is if {lo nu brode} lasts forever in a =
universe where &quot;forever&quot; extends infinitely in both directions, t=
hen the new version is just {co&#39;a broda} (every event is simultaneous w=
ith an event that lasts forever), while the old version is nonsensical.<br>
</div>

<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>So how d=
oes the IRC interpretation deal with {ZAhO lo broda ku ... [cu] ZAhO brode}=
?<br>

</div></div></blockquote>In what sense? What semantics does it=20
assign it, or how does it achieve the old semantics of that statement?=20
(I assume you dropped a {nu}). <br><br>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>
=A0</div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Here&#39;s a possible fix, though it&#39;s already quite different from the=
 original, plus I really don&#39;t like the -cfa-:<br>
<br>
lo nunvesycfa<br>
cu jai co&#39;a rulba&#39;o<br>
ja&#39;e lo nunmle<br></blockquote></div><div><br>I wouldn&#39;t call that =
a fix. If anything, it&#39;s worse than the original, IMO.<br>=A0</div><div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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