Received: from mail-oa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.219.64]:50586) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TsS1R-0006DE-7f; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:47:04 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id n16sf20247oag.19 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=n9TxP6I8UHc3mhTjXhfOGqAQ8Y8hvj0ewp1w28RrEik=; b=rRofZgPGkOPkovVqC7+DbqsjLQETmEeKc0Q3+/cZ0tE4vRwJ+eAOsIK5BnA6HBJm/w 8nt+nckGuYuAs8jTqdN6bfbRaaJ9BlhOsod08RU6iBwN6mdA0z5PoUICap5Xf3vwJkDv How1FcYqV8rOpGFkM1McXXU6ips4WghIIhbEiuPtAeDyhHB00tXw2/Dbx9fic4hO46Cw ZUs3Bu2UwFF735KeUUqRB2fu+9kqvXR09mOCYSMincIkCZuYf8o5q6PiqSr9BkPY83QJ LFn3oqWWIUetItmSsZxcv/MdyYxsvHBM+Yove6DfPo0I2T8V34tVWbBXnU/0N5sGloQo sOvw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=n9TxP6I8UHc3mhTjXhfOGqAQ8Y8hvj0ewp1w28RrEik=; b=g1prqK0dvkxt0bB2iKDU4iwQWN2vVrcsxoJrdH07+cvYzjas78m5wFkWrGi9H4DaZx 6u+32vOE/OTGtsovsDYTKenG6DQaIxuysaOwPinkcDV9AD6HfUaO6dGA+nXxsP1YXTl8 lktY4Jm7E1MWRy5qYtVBSZ5XV/0EX1a1Jg3boU7Tz++WWIvQ+cV9GKfhbbAKnR9bZYaI fSQ/i7Qn16liCZSFjkEKXpx5lyTXXpcTfAYWsiJCD3uoVOtGlpcq7GWrMcUuYxVOTNAE rvTdsxH7aKQkSmMavrqncSSGSxucA5k/af10x8o46zSRMNEutjlUNCjhwJM4V07HDi2Z +inw== X-Received: by 10.49.1.70 with SMTP id 6mr10907591qek.27.1357624002608; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.47.112 with SMTP id c16ls111175qen.43.gmail; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:42 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.239.41 with SMTP id vp9mr29284929vec.38.1357624002224; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:42 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.239.41 with SMTP id vp9mr29284928vec.38.1357624002211; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d17si17055435vdt.1.2013.01.07.21.46.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.172; Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id fw7so24302vcb.17 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.74.227 with SMTP id x3mr5957158vdv.80.1357624001824; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.13.197 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 21:46:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7074583.YQ8OGvG7Ao@caracal> References: <20130107094419.GB17408@samsa.fritz.box> <7074583.YQ8OGvG7Ao@caracal> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:46:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] request for a new gismu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodic_memory From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cece5e08dd04d2c078d1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf3071cece5e08dd04d2c078d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This triggers a variety of issues pertaining to "type safety", which primarily come up when you access the place from outside, i.e. with {lo se morji}; if {lo se morji} can be whatever type, then it can require a frustrating amount of additional specification to clarify what is meant when accessing it this way. (Type safety, like the jvojva, is somewhat controversial, but at least on IRC we've been finding it more and more important over the course of the last year or so of usage.) It also breaks the pattern of {morji} fitting in with the rest of the {djuno} family. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday, January 07, 2013 10:44:19 v4hn wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 11:55:01PM -0800, la gleki wrote: > > > 1. "i remember kissing her" > > > > .i mi morji lodu'u pu ca'o cinba ko'a > > This one is "mi morji lo li'i". No need for a new gismu; just change the > abstractor. > > Pierre > -- > Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf3071cece5e08dd04d2c078d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This triggers a variety of issues pertaining to "type safety", wh= ich primarily come up when you access the place from outside, i.e. with {lo= se morji}; if {lo se morji} can be whatever type, then it can require a fr= ustrating amount of additional specification to clarify what is meant when = accessing it this way. (Type safety, like the jvojva, is somewhat controver= sial, but at least on IRC we've been finding it more and more important= over the course of the last year or so of usage.) It also breaks the patte= rn of {morji} fitting in with the rest of the {djuno} family.

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