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Yeah, I wasn't looking for a "we should change lojban suck that..." sort of
thing.  I assumed there was some solution.

Just kind of sucks that it's very easy for me to say "I am looking for a
green thing in my dresser" (mi sisku lo (ka?) crino lo seldacru).  But for
"I'm looking for my keys", I've either got to spend half the day spelling
it all out, or I guess selkik's tanru works  tolerably well "mi troci co
zvafa'i lo mi ckiku"

I guess it just seems like an unfortunate definition for sisku given how
easy it is to *add* an object-by-property aspect to the searching.  i.e.
 "mi sisku lo creka poi crino" or even "mi sisku lo crino creka".

meh, it is what it is.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> Little correction:
>
> On 8 January 2013 12:08, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Using Lojban as it is without changing anything, there is a convoluted
> > way to use sisku as-is, like this:
> > .i mi sisku lo ka lo mi ckiku cu zvati ce'u kei ro zo'e ne lo zdani
>
> {ro zo'e ne lo mi zdani} distributes, which is bad, so we need to make
> it into a mass/set:
> {loi ro zo'e ne lo mi zdani} is better, but you could probably use {lo
> zdani} outright as a sisku3, in which case you're considering the
> house to be a mass/set of all the places within (because xorlo).
>
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
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Yeah, I wasn&#39;t looking for a &quot;we should change lojban suck that...=
&quot; sort of thing. =A0I assumed there was some solution.<div><br></div><=
div>Just kind of sucks that it&#39;s very easy for me to say &quot;I am loo=
king for a green thing in my dresser&quot; (mi sisku lo (ka?) crino lo seld=
acru). =A0But for &quot;I&#39;m looking for my keys&quot;, I&#39;ve either =
got to spend half the day spelling it all out, or I guess selkik&#39;s tanr=
u works =A0tolerably=A0well &quot;mi troci co zvafa&#39;i lo mi ckiku&quot;=
</div>

<div><br></div><div>I guess it just seems like an unfortunate definition fo=
r sisku given how easy it is to <i>add</i>=A0an object-by-property aspect t=
o the searching. =A0i.e. =A0&quot;mi sisku lo creka poi crino&quot; or even=
 &quot;mi sisku lo crino creka&quot;.</div>

<div><br></div><div>meh, it is what it is.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Little correction:<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
On 8 January 2013 12:08, Jacob Errington &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gma=
il.com">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Using Lojban as it is without changing anything, there is a convoluted=
<br>
&gt; way to use sisku as-is, like this:<br>
&gt; .i mi sisku lo ka lo mi ckiku cu zvati ce&#39;u kei ro zo&#39;e ne lo =
zdani<br>
<br>
</div>{ro zo&#39;e ne lo mi zdani} distributes, which is bad, so we need to=
 make<br>
it into a mass/set:<br>
{loi ro zo&#39;e ne lo mi zdani} is better, but you could probably use {lo<=
br>
zdani} outright as a sisku3, in which case you&#39;re considering the<br>
house to be a mass/set of all the places within (because xorlo).<br>
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o<br>
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