Received: from mail-wg0-f56.google.com ([74.125.82.56]:48056) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tseq5-0005vN-8e; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:28:02 -0800 Received: by mail-wg0-f56.google.com with SMTP id 12sf413980wgh.11 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:27:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-y-gmx-trusted :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ueptEDzVrgZIoyyr7BO5tch2aXlHCipWe1xWR02snZ0=; b=pFbhXrYR1shR8m3VgmV9cTNaFpS90KYpnAovQ2VEoyiyNxDkIQpZglxfwEszbjhFfN aFvk0CfVx0tMwfyKRFw4P/ZBohC1Kd29JgR5edbmu37e4RHZC567gmEBd7oiPYjJchx9 NsejMdtbr2zZZpSoYdTzHVvd0vOoHehCcXG07Gr3SPVn5o8OpfM3cKqAIa0hzlUS8Hpd wvluAQcJcHJa9nsH4I91ijkU3xqVei/gh9FTlj9Kw86jCK1KV/1pDNTInGxdPwvczlJ6 knJNLsQCJMEdiReYdGwgvZP98DLquuCPq7wdSricn061uLSonhQXMsZkaV18+mEjjqBh NAcQ== X-Received: by 10.180.94.233 with SMTP id df9mr2252283wib.9.1357673269973; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.20.107 with SMTP id m11ls1801294wie.10.canary; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.224.201 with SMTP id x49mr81435796eep.5.1357673269440; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.224.201 with SMTP id x49mr81435793eep.5.1357673269425; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.17.20]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id g9si10191682eeo.1.2013.01.08.11.27.49; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.20; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.31]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MF6cH-1Tmpw60fRD-00GFcx for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:27:49 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Jan 2013 19:27:49 -0000 Received: from p54AF4111.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [84.175.65.17] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 08 Jan 2013 20:27:49 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+tv158WIitQ00UJX4pNTKNf13F40uQMnw7bwM2sp fPaU0Ss4k3GNe2 Message-ID: <50EC7334.8040607@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:27:48 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] searching References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la latro'a cu cusku di'e > If you defined it the other way, you wouldn't get quite the same thing > by just attaching {poi}. Instead you could wind up looking for a > definite shirt, rather than just "some green shirt". Xorlo "lo creka" does not refer to a specific shirt, that would be "le creka", so there is no problem with using lo here, but: > {da} wouldn't fix > this either, because the quantifier would be in the wrong place. (That > is, "I'm looking for {da poi crino}" is "There exists a green thing that > I'm looking for"; the existential is outside the looking. Right, "da" doesn't work for these situations, that's one of the problems xorlo fixed. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.