Received: from mail-ie0-f191.google.com ([209.85.223.191]:36921) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TswCP-0006TW-Kb; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:00:20 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f191.google.com with SMTP id c13sf1137488ieb.18 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:00:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MoMZwFZh2cxqJwggp2+1NdwJCEvYJWJ4TuynFrr8R8U=; b=cs4BCr8X/I5N5M5khN3z0uJLWLiDjRo9S7bwdJU2vsRxJPHkME38MpgFeifvPQZK24 E2kwyZ1X5lxAh5VaRF2LcZo8MpqUGnLwvdd281aLkh9uS/VIb4EsvKjkuTETFZ10UFMQ cwkXzItQnJx00MfIegRauW/v+NteqdhG63SqrGvpCF87YlI9/PHeo7siGgZTlPLiOHtM YdjgiiOMYf1ZaLJuS0ZoGVN+r2srCNHMb2ldOtGdUaPdS+CeXPul9vaYs6nWMV5JpmSy VRXysJ0x21DKbc5+5U4FD8v5U+XMk6yPGPBkI4YXaxOKgOm1/xFqeAQI5K0tO/ZcAPac jCag== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MoMZwFZh2cxqJwggp2+1NdwJCEvYJWJ4TuynFrr8R8U=; b=Boc2lwMFojR9jfmEKWix3dfDSyNNIUx68+xvWzrtdrPeAIG+8zBmxk4GqZbzYk4SLB 93HmRSdvBtHp//hq27cXWPxoPk7FPeBLqBhUVEeS7w2vMbqq3lWeKTnom3Dyc4Z6wY1S QDeIDWSkeRtKaDEUyz6IfFJlOuBbndt8PW2KrO2uNfdUXHFDVFTjzhN+pgWZgJxGWJD6 S2YztnFiK5gHEr7WB3p6EAgUf0F6W7Vy40xIvdDer4GKYmFMPDT7llEFoVEIWafdUBB6 mtR3heTAfJ2ZgnwDLvCZv+98ccPHIhkeqEBgB2pHW1cFWtj+mjQ0UcQsi250iKc6EmYa NH+g== X-Received: by 10.49.60.40 with SMTP id e8mr12122266qer.40.1357740002999; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:00:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.107.35 with SMTP id gz3ls881279qeb.52.gmail; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:00:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.24.164 with SMTP id v4mr12033571qef.6.1357740001552; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:00:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 06:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban] request for a new gismu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodic_memory MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_874_27366913.1357740000696" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_874_27366913.1357740000696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, January 7, 2013 6:03:03 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:55 AM, la gleki > > wrote: > > > > Anyway if others agree i'll start the process of searching for > etymology. > > it'll be much harder than with the case of "qua/in the capacity of", > though. > > Probably, no source glosswords for starting gismu/zi'evla creation > algorithm > > will be found at all. > > Bear in mind though that all predicates of cognition can have this > distinction, not just remembering: > > She knows what it's like to be a mother. > She knows what a mother is. > > She realized she was pregnant. > He realized she was pregnant. > tsani and latro'a, do you have any more points or you say that there should be some basic gismu so that all those cases can be derived from it? And why not {morji lo li'i}? > mu'o mi'e xorxes > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/zsyVXNiZWaQJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_874_27366913.1357740000696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, January 7, 2013 6:03:03 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:55 AM, la glek= i <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anyway if others agree i'll start the process of searching for ety= mology.
> it'll be much harder than with the case of "qua/in the capacity of= ", though.
> Probably, no source glosswords for starting gismu/zi'evla creation= algorithm
> will be found at all.

Bear in mind though that all predicates of cognition can have this
distinction, not just remembering:

She knows what it's like to be a mother.
She knows what a mother is.

She realized she was pregnant.
He realized she was pregnant.

tsani and latro'a, do you have any mor= e points or you say that there should be some basic gismu so that all those= cases can be derived from it?
And why not {morji lo li'i}?
=


mu'o mi'e xorxes

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