Received: from mail-bk0-f56.google.com ([209.85.214.56]:51827) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TswX5-0007BA-Ba; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:51 -0800 Received: by mail-bk0-f56.google.com with SMTP id q16sf762702bkw.1 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=8sEvM55CD3LPCqpo/zFy1U6Dv81UftFyk4pJVs14OvU=; b=zGhzSTWqRCKFFtxi5BgcwHOZ5vCg8CamsWZoGAt8lrHovp4dp0QT+nt+VYXoObMGh8 dfx2fOO3BII+lswnaNS0/7lMJgTgqMNVYL72lIxOMe0AaaizXpiAlkGljRVIrMFsF+We u2JWZFjgbBfhBPYRVZeP3OjmTRyU85aTsdNR+ra9AxqbaJ6FXvk39l3xSPDVIVFvXeHZ a+4cM50BXK4BNz8gOLyJNqBd0WrMlZgn8A8S92GIlZqY+IHLWJagMZeEBANcd8fpbuga pCZabL11L1YWLbZX8YXj+R6fovnPSWFvmUmY6Pqw+RRypiutA6ENla+93DM+9kHCRrU4 AFww== X-Received: by 10.180.106.230 with SMTP id gx6mr349609wib.16.1357741283521; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.82.130 with SMTP id i2ls1981608wiy.39.canary; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.224.201 with SMTP id x49mr85276411eep.5.1357741282071; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.224.201 with SMTP id x49mr85276409eep.5.1357741282055; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9si11614639eeo.1.2013.01.09.06.21.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbc2981.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.41.129]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5E5B6865091 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:21:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:21:21 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] request for a new gismu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodic_memory Message-ID: <20130109142120.GF14601@samsa.fritz.box> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qp4W5+cUSnZs0RIF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --qp4W5+cUSnZs0RIF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:09:17AM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote: > Isn't this just the distinction between remembering a nu and > remembering a du'u? Or am I missing something? More between {morji lo du'u} and {morji lo li'i} as was pointed out already. However, at the moment {morji} is restricted to {du'u} (see definition), so normally you shouldn't be allowed to use {morji} with {nu}/{li'i}. The question remains, whether remembering (possibly non-experienced/ learnt) facts is the same concept as recalling experiences. If it is not, it might not make sense to use {morji} with something else than {du'u} and there is the need for a new gismu. v4hn --qp4W5+cUSnZs0RIF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlDtfOAACgkQMBKLZs4+wjyoDgCeLNpJkQC67aT1evwCwH6qVOHo nFQAnjhzGA0RuB2oEIwShUsdoF/4PMgd =zzJ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qp4W5+cUSnZs0RIF--