Received: from mail-pa0-f62.google.com ([209.85.220.62]:55999) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tt3Rm-0002A5-Rm; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:43 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f62.google.com with SMTP id fb10sf1472098pad.7 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=MbkO8WE6d6Q4BQC+PjYI9IaL1pAHQzlN8vDgrubC2D0=; b=WK3e6pUlCzEWKsHVUlzelO2hnAPqQlT8o6QcG2iecIqiMHFYCFiKzc0oAAvcxHgJWm IbyFdDQweY8CrdmW36D2T2LTC6OsqKhyR4w6f4AQkEGdWY1XwgfWxIsPEb1+XNCM2HyW Y08k7COahcP31WwoPCWZwKgfLcXycJNvLa1si52UZm1nW7W5hQTQRZWSBgq9oBLLDpDx rtWrYQvkUyjEI4NFtt0I1mWFwtrBAjeFQGdwijmd3APKqYd0wDNMh7xhJYPhLeJSOghr /O6g4Vv/EtQJnC4g8SMHtkp4Ksty7lE6D9WvuxJAVTRRDeFa/jQ+TiGpzrDTr6hxH+zy H1YQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=MbkO8WE6d6Q4BQC+PjYI9IaL1pAHQzlN8vDgrubC2D0=; b=kLuxmGTRZBDTWkSXgDiY9vOZ/pSKXca6CDHzefeUvTKHzovfPkI33QO6ZI8tTcds7U E6fzb4ulzVS1c3dDo/K5YtNEGhCzFG/34i82+Ivh0RCo19caQrif8Y2GPRMpvFhBM7cf YVvngXzsI9X9ZCFeNSwLdDpjy0B3MSKJnWyvQety7+4RTchO+Cly4OPl/h4f6A8B0lP6 2UmZWkcTapGeRCi/u+qLH+G2/wT9hazR02oD7yn7Y5O0PAEYCcWGAC2uz3AYDbrG9Ghp E43aO5BXsZZ5zqj4+yW421VOBeYGnPBV/gVwcylJy4QZsfglEIkbdlq5naYuUOU8Q/67 p85Q== X-Received: by 10.49.12.238 with SMTP id b14mr12634775qec.18.1357767864166; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:24 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.1.109 with SMTP id 13ls1304562qel.87.gmail; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.59.0.234 with SMTP id bb10mr30670334ved.32.1357767862688; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.59.0.234 with SMTP id bb10mr30670332ved.32.1357767862667; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2si10213207vdi.2.2013.01.09.13.44.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.173; Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f13so2092416vcb.32 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.22.107 with SMTP id c11mr78860271vdf.73.1357767862549; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.13.197 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:44:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50ED84E7.7070405@gmx.de> References: <20130109142120.GF14601@samsa.fritz.box> <50ED84E7.7070405@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] request for a new gismu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodic_memory From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9eaa227b2704d2e1f786 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307c9eaa227b2704d2e1f786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not the same thing, though, as we've been saying repeatedly; remembering facts about an experience and the experience itself are different concepts. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM, selpa'i wrote: > la .van. cu cusku di'e > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:09:17AM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote: >> >>> Isn't this just the distinction between remembering a nu and >>> remembering a du'u? Or am I missing something? >>> >> >> More between {morji lo du'u} and {morji lo li'i} >> as was pointed out already. >> >> However, at the moment {morji} is restricted to {du'u} >> (see definition), so normally you shouldn't be allowed >> to use {morji} with {nu}/{li'i}. >> > > Without adding any new gismu, there is also the possibility of: > > mi morji lo du'u ma kau li'i se tarbi > I remember what it was like to be pregnant. > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban?hl=en . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf307c9eaa227b2704d2e1f786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not the same thing, though, as we've been saying repeatedly; remembering facts about an experience and the experience itself are different concepts.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
la .van. cu cusku di'e

On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:09:17AM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote:
Isn't this just the distinction between remembering a nu and
remembering a du'u? Or am I missing something?

More between {morji lo du'u} and {morji lo li'i}
as was pointed out already.

However, at the moment {morji} is restricted to {du'u}
(see definition), so normally you shouldn't be allowed
to use {morji} with {nu}/{li'i}.

Without adding any new gismu, there is also the possibility of:

mi morji lo du'u ma kau li'i se tarbi
I remember what it was like to be pregnant.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i


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