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Section 4.14 of CLL gives a description of the gismu creation process (
http://dag.github.com/cll/4/14/).

However, it would be very interesting to ear the story directly from Bob
and the other fathers of Lojban.

remod




On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrote=
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> Every Lojbanist understands that gismu denote predicates that are highly
> practical.
> e.g. {pilno} includes a goal as pilno3. Indeed, how can we imagine using
> something without a goal?
>
> My question is who collected those definitions? Was it JCB? How was this
> gimste formed? Is there a changelog of modifications to gismu definitions
> starting from the first edition of loglan?
>
> My particular interest here is with the recent discussion of a possible
> new gismu meaning "qua". The corresponding word is of high frequency in
> Mandarin but in European languages it is often confused with words meanin=
g
> {simsa}.
> e.g.
> "as" means both "like" and "qua".
> Russian "=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA" [kak] means both "like" and "qua".
>
> Were Mandarin predicates taken into consideration while constructing gism=
u
> definitions?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Section 4.14 of CLL gives a description of the g=
ismu creation process (<a href=3D"http://dag.github.com/cll/4/14/">http://d=
ag.github.com/cll/4/14/</a>). <br><br></div>However, it would be very inter=
esting to ear the story directly from Bob and the other fathers of Lojban.<=
br>
<br></div>remod<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, =
la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Every Lojbanist understands that gismu denot=
e predicates that are highly practical.<div>e.g. {pilno} includes a goal as=
 pilno3. Indeed, how can we imagine using something without a goal?</div>
<div><br></div><div>My question is who collected those definitions? Was it =
JCB? How was this gimste formed? Is there a changelog of modifications to g=
ismu definitions starting from the first edition of loglan?</div><div><br>
</div><div>My particular interest here is with the recent discussion of a p=
ossible new gismu meaning &quot;qua&quot;. The corresponding word is of hig=
h frequency in Mandarin but in European languages it is often confused with=
 words meaning {simsa}.</div>
<div>e.g.</div><div>&quot;as&quot; means both &quot;like&quot; and &quot;qu=
a&quot;.</div><div>Russian &quot;=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA&quot; [kak] means both =
&quot;like&quot; and &quot;qua&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>Were Mandari=
n predicates taken into consideration while constructing gismu definitions?=
</div>
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