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This really only covers morphology in significant detail, the actual choice
of the words from the source languages as well as the way in which the
place structures of the words were created are rather undocumented, to my
knowledge.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

> Section 4.14 of CLL gives a description of the gismu creation process (
> http://dag.github.com/cll/4/14/).
>
> However, it would be very interesting to ear the story directly from Bob
> and the other fathers of Lojban.
>
> remod
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wro=
te:
>
>> Every Lojbanist understands that gismu denote predicates that are highly
>> practical.
>> e.g. {pilno} includes a goal as pilno3. Indeed, how can we imagine using
>> something without a goal?
>>
>> My question is who collected those definitions? Was it JCB? How was this
>> gimste formed? Is there a changelog of modifications to gismu definition=
s
>> starting from the first edition of loglan?
>>
>> My particular interest here is with the recent discussion of a possible
>> new gismu meaning "qua". The corresponding word is of high frequency in
>> Mandarin but in European languages it is often confused with words meani=
ng
>> {simsa}.
>> e.g.
>> "as" means both "like" and "qua".
>> Russian "=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA" [kak] means both "like" and "qua".
>>
>> Were Mandarin predicates taken into consideration while constructing
>> gismu definitions?
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This really only covers morphology in significant detail, the actual choice=
 of the words from the source languages as well as the way in which the pla=
ce structures of the words were created are rather undocumented, to my know=
ledge.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Remo Dentat=
o <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Section 4.14 of CLL gives a description of the g=
ismu creation process (<a href=3D"http://dag.github.com/cll/4/14/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://dag.github.com/cll/4/14/</a>). <br><br></div>However, it=
 would be very interesting to ear the story directly from Bob and the other=
 fathers of Lojban.<br>

<br></div>remod<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb=
"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.nam=
e@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Every Lojbanist understands that gismu denot=
e predicates that are highly practical.<div>e.g. {pilno} includes a goal as=
 pilno3. Indeed, how can we imagine using something without a goal?</div>

<div><br></div><div>My question is who collected those definitions? Was it =
JCB? How was this gimste formed? Is there a changelog of modifications to g=
ismu definitions starting from the first edition of loglan?</div><div>
<br>
</div><div>My particular interest here is with the recent discussion of a p=
ossible new gismu meaning &quot;qua&quot;. The corresponding word is of hig=
h frequency in Mandarin but in European languages it is often confused with=
 words meaning {simsa}.</div>

<div>e.g.</div><div>&quot;as&quot; means both &quot;like&quot; and &quot;qu=
a&quot;.</div><div>Russian &quot;=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA&quot; [kak] means both =
&quot;like&quot; and &quot;qua&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>Were Mandari=
n predicates taken into consideration while constructing gismu definitions?=
</div>

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