Received: from mail-ia0-f188.google.com ([209.85.210.188]:54191) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tul3t-000863-8p; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:31:01 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f188.google.com with SMTP id b27sf2113692iaa.15 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:30:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Nq6e9LHslM6sR6O2q9oKBOo5DmhreO3KYeBFM6uloWA=; b=cyobEG/FuNVs97d2thRQnrhfSclWd0WBqftn7rAogEK6cP3KhYkeC6eHtk3U5jdSUi ALZO8lF13SzPYGhcSpNNSAMb0hwmuFtlyGwHDvkK1BivLeI8ZaMcOCrhSUxkYQXrun+7 TsVOEIjyuV2+jaiEofSYFHssWkA26xoh+E7rfDC0yU+mGEYdnHgYl37Bp5MXN6qLM2iS IPjIVirLs8vtohOeLQ9wrwKcprjgfjxQsc+I6qn1NaEFVLMbG4UUDeo2u/X3Yd10b7E5 M2w75v3pyfpRQI94E+LFu0UZAFT+PHr+BIvAmer+72XrRAWteTLStQqJyIs7qBen8NIF vlMQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Nq6e9LHslM6sR6O2q9oKBOo5DmhreO3KYeBFM6uloWA=; b=hkwyW9mRflu5Fv2QVLcghGvat4i3XFqsuJwlgaP6FnxNcz93Bzu9jVJtB1+c9uJKu+ mcD6hEwymp1h/vRA2XG71BUWpkZ/okChlF6uGn1Zlw3L8O6IO2OHA/XXtjPDGdFt+xtC S65G1KgOpWbD38qy0G3IgGYnTSzA8ALWoQ1ZorapWQ/GgIVBiYWxc+Jtbga12zReDlF/ N03MUQ+PGc8vUDClb0JOmAfFrmIB9JmOBwPGazsvOwGR4xAH1Q0/Vm+F/52J3IZXuv+s Ie1Ooeb4RAjWNVbZxxuDcK6HUnGXqUWGOIxDFJt/yfs5pRqLGCxKO7a2nPfbqHptREut KsYg== X-Received: by 10.49.58.238 with SMTP id u14mr15459203qeq.13.1358173844385; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:30:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.82.112 with SMTP id h16ls3504300qey.0.gmail; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:30:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.75.9 with SMTP id y9mr15368813qev.9.1358173843103; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:30:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5c1d790c-1d74-4718-a147-f166206ea496@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] la jbojba liste - Lojban Berries - aka "filling gaps in vocabulary" - lojbanic dict MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_895_31448937.1358173842267" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_895_31448937.1358173842267 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, January 14, 2013 2:44:42 PM UTC+4, jongausib wrote: > > If there is a word in english or another language which is pronounced > similar but with a different meaning, is that also a "gismu cognate" ? > No. Some time ago Timo asked us about words that sound the same in lojban and english. He needed that for his presentation. We edoidnt have that and had to recall them without profound thinking. So now I want to find all such words for english and other languages in order to present lojban as a verbally-intuitive language (in cases when we 'll be faced by such a problem). > 2013/1/12 la gleki > > >> >> >> On Friday, January 4, 2013 11:06:59 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote: >>> >>> I just looked at that file, and it's nice. >>> I got out my 5-language thematic computer dictionary to see if I could >>> add some terms, but it's almost completely obsolete, from 1972. (Hungarian, >>> German, English, Russian, Esperanto) >>> >> >> A new tab called "gismu cognates". gismu that sound very similar to words >> in other languages like >> dansu ~ dance >> ckule ~ school >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=22 >> >> >> If you wanna fill in the list for a language other than English just add >> a corresponding column. >> >> >>> stevo >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, la gleki wrote: >>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/**spreadsheet/ccc?key=** >>>> 0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKU**EJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=21 >>>> >>>> All recent projects of filling gaps in vocabulary (FunctionalList, >>>> nuclear physics terms, semantic lists of most important terms in any >>>> language) >>>> have been moved to this list. This has been done in order to simplify >>>> the whole process. Just choose the topic that you like and start creating >>>> vocabulary for it. >>>> >>>> Also I'm gonna create new tabs in this *gugl. gredile vreji* (Google >>>> spreadsheet file) in order to place parallel translations of different >>>> texts there in several languages (of course No 1 column is always Lojban, >>>> other languages are world natlangs). >>>> >>>> Please, join the project. >>>> If you feel that you need another topic-specific tab don't hesitate to >>>> create it and then inform us about your work. >>>> Any help is appreciated. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msg/lojban/-/5_o0I5DZdc8J >>>> . >>>> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+un...@** >>>> googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/lojban?hl=en . >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/u21AtTb5B8UJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Monday, January 14, 2013 2:44:42 PM UTC+4, jongausib wrote:If there is a word in english or an= other language which is pronounced similar but with a different meaning, is= that also a "gismu cognate" ?

No. Some= time ago Timo asked us about words that sound the same in lojban and engli= sh. He needed that for his presentation. We edoidnt have that and had to re= call them without profound thinking.
So now I want to find all su= ch words for english and other languages in order to present lojban as a ve= rbally-intuitive language (in cases when we 'll be faced by such a problem)= .



2013/1/12 la gleki = <gleki.is...@gmail.com>


On Friday, January 4, 2013 11:0= 6:59 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
I just looked at that file, and it's nice. 
I got out my 5-languag= e thematic computer dictionary to see if I could add some terms, but it's a= lmost completely obsolete, from 1972. (Hungarian, German, English, Russian,= Esperanto)

A new tab called "gismu cognates". g= ismu that sound very similar to words in other languages like 
dansu ~ dance
ckule ~ school


If you wanna fill in the list for a language othe= r than English just add a corresponding column.


stevo

On Fri, Ja= n 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.= com> wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?k= ey=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE#g= id=3D21

All recent projects of filling gaps in vocabulary (Func= tionalList, nuclear physics terms, semantic lists of most important terms i= n any language)
have been moved to this list. This has been done = in order to simplify the whole process. Just choose the topic that you like= and start creating vocabulary for it.

Also I'm gonna create new tabs in this gugl. gredile= vreji (Google spreadsheet file) in order to place parallel translation= s of different texts there in several languages (of course No 1 column is a= lways Lojban, other languages are world natlangs).

Please, join the project.
If you feel that yo= u need another topic-specific tab don't hesitate to create it and then info= rm us about your work.
Any help is appreciated.

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