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On Monday, January 14, 2013 3:34:41 PM UTC+4, jongausib wrote:
>
> What is the idea of this wordlist? Is this list going to be exported into=
=20
> jbovlaste once it is complete?
>

The main idea is to fill gaps in lojbanic lexicon.
1. Into jvs.
2. Into tatoeba.
3. There is at least one tab  that is called "semantic list". Grouping=20
words into a thesaurus or a dictionary a la CycL/Upper ontology/Roget etc.=
=20
would also be nice.


Note that i placed some other projects like translating books, stories and=
=20
poems there. I don't think there serioud limitations in Google docs for=20
spreadsheets with large number of tabs.



> What is LFN?
>

It's a list taken from Lingua Franca Nova dictionary. If you don't like it=
=20
don't fill it.
la jbojba has many tabs. Choose the one that you like.
If you don't like any please create another tab and put your favorite lists=
=20
there.

If you wanna other people to join your translation project you can import=
=20
the source text of the book/story/song/poem there and inform us here about=
=20
your project.
So it's a crowd-sourcing project not only for filling the vocabulary.
=20

>
> I've noticed you're using the word {vlipa} for "force (physics)". I think=
=20
> physical force is a more direct concept, not a latent potential of having=
=20
> the power to do something, but something that acts directly on something,=
=20
> so I suggest {bapli}, {mujbai} or something similar. What do you think?
>

I think nothing. I'm not n expert in those things. Why not  {danre}?



> 2013/1/14 Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.co...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
>
>> If there is a word in english or another language which is pronounced=20
>> similar but with a different meaning, is that also a "gismu cognate" ?
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/12 la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 4, 2013 11:06:59 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just looked at that file, and it's nice.=20
>>>> I got out my 5-language thematic computer dictionary to see if I could=
=20
>>>> add some terms, but it's almost completely obsolete, from 1972. (Hunga=
rian,=20
>>>> German, English, Russian, Esperanto)
>>>>
>>>
>>> A new tab called "gismu cognates". gismu that sound very similar to=20
>>> words in other languages like=20
>>> dansu ~ dance
>>> ckule ~ school
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1E=
WlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=3D22
>>> =20
>>>
>>> If you wanna fill in the list for a language other than English just ad=
d=20
>>> a corresponding column.
>>>
>>>
>>>> stevo
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/**spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D**
>>>>> 0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKU**EJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=3D21<https://docs.=
google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCM=
FE#gid=3D21>
>>>>>
>>>>> All recent projects of filling gaps in vocabulary (FunctionalList,=20
>>>>> nuclear physics terms, semantic lists of most important terms in any=
=20
>>>>> language)
>>>>> have been moved to this list. This has been done in order to simplify=
=20
>>>>> the whole process. Just choose the topic that you like and start crea=
ting=20
>>>>> vocabulary for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also I'm gonna create new tabs in this *gugl. gredile vreji* (Google=
=20
>>>>> spreadsheet file) in order to place parallel translations of differen=
t=20
>>>>> texts there in several languages (of course No 1 column is always Loj=
ban,=20
>>>>> other languages are world natlangs).
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, join the project.
>>>>> If you feel that you need another topic-specific tab don't hesitate t=
o=20
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>>>>> Any help is appreciated.
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<br><br>On Monday, January 14, 2013 3:34:41 PM UTC+4, jongausib wrote:<bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-l=
eft: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">What is the idea of this wordlist? =
Is this list going to be exported into jbovlaste once it is complete?<br></=
blockquote><div><br></div><div>The main idea is to fill gaps in lojbanic le=
xicon.</div><div>1. Into jvs.</div><div>2. Into tatoeba.</div><div>3. There=
 is at least one tab &nbsp;that is called "semantic list". Grouping words i=
nto a thesaurus or a dictionary a la CycL/Upper ontology/Roget etc. would a=
lso be nice.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Note that i placed som=
e other projects like translating books, stories and poems there. I don't t=
hink there serioud limitations in Google docs for spreadsheets with large n=
umber of tabs.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left: 1ex;"><br>What is LFN?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It=
's a list taken from Lingua Franca Nova dictionary. If you don't like it do=
n't fill it.</div><div>la jbojba has many tabs. Choose the one that you lik=
e.</div><div>If you don't like any please create another tab and put your f=
avorite lists there.</div><div><br></div><div>If you wanna other people to =
join your translation project you can import the source text of the book/st=
ory/song/poem there and inform us here about your project.</div><div>So it'=
s a crowd-sourcing project not only for filling the vocabulary.</div><div>&=
nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left=
: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><br>I've noticed yo=
u're using the word {vlipa} for "force (physics)". I think physical force i=
s a more direct concept, not a latent potential of having the power to do s=
omething, but something that acts directly on something, so I suggest {bapl=
i}, {mujbai} or something similar. What do you think?<br></blockquote><div>=
<br></div><div>I think nothing. I'm not n expert in those things. Why not &=
nbsp;{danre}?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2013/1/14 Sebastian Fr=F6jd <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"DD=
RUSUJYkqYJ">so.co...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
If there is a word in english or another language which is pronounced simil=
ar but with a different meaning, is that also a "gismu cognate" ?<div><div>=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2013/1/12 la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"DDRUSUJ=
YkqYJ">gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br><br>On Friday, January 4, 2013 11:0=
6:59 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

I just looked at that file, and it's nice.&nbsp;<div>I got out my 5-languag=
e thematic computer dictionary to see if I could add some terms, but it's a=
lmost completely obsolete, from 1972. (Hungarian, German, English, Russian,=
 Esperanto)</div>

</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>A new tab called "gismu cognates". g=
ismu that sound very similar to words in other languages like&nbsp;</div><d=
iv>dansu ~ dance</div><div>ckule ~ school</div><div><br></div><div>

<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBR=
zgwMm1EWlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=3D22" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.=
com/<wbr>spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D<wbr>0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKU<wbr>EJRc=
TQtUGNCMFE#gid=3D22</a>&nbsp;<br>

</div><div><br></div><div>If you wanna fill in the list for a language othe=
r than English just add a corresponding column.</div><div><br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div><br></div><div>stevo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Ja=
n 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>gleki.is...@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><a href=3D"https://docs.google.co=
m/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=3D=
21" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.com/<u></u>spread<wbr>sheet/ccc?k=
ey=3D<u></u>0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZ<wbr>BRzgwMm1EWlpKU<u></u>EJRcTQtUGNCMFE#<wbr>g=
id=3D21</a><br>



<div><br></div><div>All recent projects of filling gaps in vocabulary (Func=
tionalList, nuclear physics terms, semantic lists of most important terms i=
n any language)</div><div>have been moved to this list. This has been done =
in order to simplify the whole process. Just choose the topic that you like=
 and start creating vocabulary for it.</div>



<div><br></div><div>Also I'm gonna create new tabs in this <i>gugl. gredile=
 vreji</i> (Google spreadsheet file) in order to place parallel translation=
s of different texts there in several languages (of course No 1 column is a=
lways Lojban, other languages are world natlangs).</div>



<div><br></div><div>Please, join the project.</div><div>If you feel that yo=
u need another topic-specific tab don't hesitate to create it and then info=
rm us about your work.</div><div>Any help is appreciated.</div></div>

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