The only stage-4 fu'ivla I add are those which are very cultural sp= ecific, not easily constructed as a lujvo and/or which doesn't easily f= it into some cathegory. Stage-4 fu'ivla should also be useful. CLL says= : "[stage-4] are used where a fu'ivla has become so common or so i= mportant that it must be made as short as possible."

But as long as you don't add stage-4 without cause (what's the = cause of making {konjaku} a stage-4 for example? I've never heard of th= is species before), I think those fu'ivlas could really give a good fla= vor to the language, even if this at the same time means that we're goi= ng to learn a lot of inconsistent words just like learning natlangs. But st= age-4 fu'ivlas could be really cool, my favourites are {iklki} and {fi&= #39;ikca}.

Form
I think jbovlaste should have a consistent format before= publishing a printed version. Some poor fellow would therefore have to rea= d through all jbovlaste and edit it into a consistent format just before pr= inting. But if we would have guidelines from now on already, and we all add= valsi in the same way, there are going to be less work for someone in the = future.

1. Form of definition
Which format do you think should be standard?<= br>
{nerkla}:
a. n₁=3Dk₁ enters n₂= =3Dk₂ from origin k₃ via route k₄ using me= ans/vehicle k₅

b.x1=3Dn₁=3Dk₁ enters x2=3Dn₂=3Dk_=
2 from origin x3=3Dk₃ via route x4=3Dk₄ using m= eans/vehicle x5=3Dk₅

c. x1 enters x2 from origin x3 via r= oute x4 using means/vehicle x5

2. Etymology
I suggest that we don't add etymology info in the n= otes, but use the "add etymology"-link in jbovlaste.

I thi= nk etymology should be mandatory for cmevla and fu'ivla, so you can dis= cuss which language to borrow from.
This is a paranthetical but important question if lojban has ambition to be= as cultural neutral as possible.
So one recommendation could be that yo= u always use latin for names of species, the language most related to the s= pecific cultural phenomena/object (or a derivate of languages if many cultu= res share the same phenomena/object, or in that case maybe esperanto).

3. How much info in the notes?

And also a final question: Is it = possible for a user to edit another user's notes in jbovlaste, to add i= nfo?

4. Experimental gismu/cmavo
I think that's BPFK job to c= onsider if these words ever are going to be official. How does the procedur= e looks like for this?

mu'omi'e jongausib

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