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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:55:02PM +0100, Sebastian Fröjd wrote: > It would also be a shorter way to start contributing (well you can > contribute anyway ofcourse, but I think you do a better work when you're > familiar with the discussions). [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid --yaap9KN+GmBP785v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:55:02PM +0100, Sebastian Fr=C3=B6jd wrote: > It would also be a shorter way to start contributing (well you can > contribute anyway ofcourse, but I think you do a better work when you're > familiar with the discussions). I agree, the way in which information is presented in the community isn't really compatible with newcomers contributing. However, I'm quite sure you wouldn't be the first one trying to implement a "working" platform that would quickly become as "useless", in this regard= s, as the rest. > But still, if no one read "mail that long" > does that mean all proposals must be short? Or is it even possible for > someone non-BPFK to come with proposals? What do you mean by "proposals"? One of the last discussions recently made clear, that _there should not be any proposals_ at the moment. None will be accepted or rejected official= ly. They will, however, be ignored by most(if not all) of the people in the bpf= k. Take a look at glekis many tries to convince yourself. If you really want to contribute to the language, either help fixing the CLL or write (formally very strict) proposals for cmavo definitions for the byf= y. Before that part is done, you wouldn't even know, what exactly you would like to change, because there is no reference stating what is the case right now! v4hn --yaap9KN+GmBP785v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlD0spEACgkQMBKLZs4+wjx+3ACfT9O9SVHoHmogtGqtD0EqAr6r DdsAoKCYzAcnFOQ68sVRa1CEa6KTXRjv =T5TO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yaap9KN+GmBP785v--