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On Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:58:05 PM UTC+4, remod wrote:
>
> Another page: "The Wild Boar and the Fox".
>
> I would really benefit from getting some comment.
>
> Btw, I tried to contact Nick Nicholas without success, anyone has been in 
> contact with him lately?
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Remo Dentato <rden...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> New page added with nitcion translation of "the fox and the grapes".
>>
>> Any contribution/comment/feedback is welcome!
>>
>
ji'a la Zalaim pu co'i fanva si'a lo drata lisri be fi'e la esop
i einai do tcidu la'oi http://vk.com/topic-5014685_27633758
 

>
>> mu'o mi'e la remod
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Remo Dentato <rden...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> What fool am I? I should have checked before. Of course some Aesop 
>>> fables were already translated in the pre-xorlo era by Nick Nicholas!
>>> I didn't check if it was before or after the great rafsi reallocation.
>>>
>>> I'll try to check with Nick if he's fine with me re-adapting them to a 
>>> post-xorlo version.
>>>
>>> mu'o mi'e la remod.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Remo Dentato <rden...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've translated one of the Aesop fable ("The Crab and hist Mother") and 
>>>> posted it here:
>>>>
>>>> http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/
>>>>
>>>> Aesop seems a good choice for translating into Lojban as the text is 
>>>> rather short, there's no copyright and it is available in many languages.
>>>>
>>>> I intended to start from project Gutenberg text (
>>>> http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/19994) but I noticed the English 
>>>> version is rather different from the original!
>>>> So, for this translation I relied more on the Italian translation (
>>>> http://www.lafeltrinelli.it/products/9788854138476/Favole_Testo_greco_a_fronte_Ediz_Integrale/Esopo.html) 
>>>> that matches the Greek text (
>>>> http://mythfolklore.net/aesopica/chambry/151.htm) much better.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has made other Aesop translations and wants me to publish it, 
>>>> let me know, I'll be happy to add them.
>>>>
>>>> As usual, please let me know of any mistake I might have made.
>>>>
>>>> mu'o mi'e la .remod.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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<br><br>On Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:58:05 PM UTC+4, remod wrote:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Another pag=
e: "The Wild Boar and the Fox".<br><br></div>I would really benefit from ge=
tting some comment.<br><br></div>Btw, I tried to contact Nick Nicholas with=
out success, anyone has been in contact with him lately?<br>
</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:34 =
AM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_b=
lank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"gyDJq4QAF2cJ">rden...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>New page added wi=
th nitcion translation of "the fox and the grapes".<br><br></div>Any contri=
bution/comment/feedback is welcome!<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div=
></blockquote><div><br></div><div>ji'a la Zalaim pu co'i fanva si'a lo drat=
a lisri be fi'e la esop</div><div>i einai do tcidu la'oi http://vk.com/topi=
c-5014685_27633758</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft: 1ex;"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div>
<br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la remod<br></div></div><div><div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Remo Den=
tato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-ob=
fuscated-mailto=3D"gyDJq4QAF2cJ">rden...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>What fool am I? I should have checked before. Of cour=
se some Aesop fables were already translated in the pre-xorlo era by Nick N=
icholas!<br>I didn't check if it was before or after the great rafsi reallo=
cation.<br>


<br>I'll try to check with Nick if he's fine with me re-adapting them to a =
post-xorlo version.<br><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e la remod.<br></div><div><br=
></div><br></div><div><div><div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"gyDJq4QAF2cJ">r=
den...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>I've translated one of the Aesop =
fable ("The Crab and hist Mother") and posted it here:<br><br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://xanrilisri.<w=
br>thecomicseries.com/</a><br>



<br></div>Aesop seems a good choice for translating into Lojban as the text=
 is rather short, there's no copyright and it is available in many language=
s.<br><br></div>I intended to start from project Gutenberg text (<a href=3D=
"http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/19994" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gutenb=
erg.org/<wbr>ebooks/19994</a>) but I noticed the English version is rather =
different from the original!<br>



So, for this translation I relied more on the Italian translation (<a href=
=3D"http://www.lafeltrinelli.it/products/9788854138476/Favole_Testo_greco_a=
_fronte_Ediz_Integrale/Esopo.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.lafeltrinel=
li.it/<wbr>products/9788854138476/Favole_<wbr>Testo_greco_a_fronte_Ediz_<wb=
r>Integrale/Esopo.html</a>) that matches the Greek text (<a href=3D"http://=
mythfolklore.net/aesopica/chambry/151.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://mythfol=
klore.net/<wbr>aesopica/chambry/151.htm</a>) much better.<br>



<br></div>If anyone has made other Aesop translations and wants me to publi=
sh it, let me know, I'll be happy to add them.<br><br></div>As usual, pleas=
e let me know of any mistake I might have made.<br><br></div>mu'o mi'e la .=
remod.<br>



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