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Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote:
> Sure, I will try to contribute but first I would like to know the
> frames. What to do and don't, and in what form. And consistency is a
> good thing in my opinion.
> Secondly I don't have a lot of time to read through all maillist either,

Nobody else does either, which is why this low priority topic is not=20
going to get decided.

> so probably the wheel is being invented many times over and over again.

Good.  The founders had ideas on such topics, but we hardly have a=20
monopoly on good ideas, and it is good that we no longer have the=20
authority to insist on ours.

Reinventing the wheel is only a problem when the reinvention is=20
non-productive.  Word-making is never non-productive, as long as the=20
word is well-formed and usefully defined.  The rules for being=20
well-formed are in CLL (which BTW allows for experimental cmavo but not=20
experimental gismu.  Use a fu'ivla, and if you think it is important=20
enough to be a gismu, THEN (and only then) consider making it a Type 4=20
fu'ivla, and use the experimental fu'ivla rafsi if you need to make=20
compounds.  If new gismu are ever added, it will likely be that the most=20
used type-4s will be considered.).

> I tried to read backwards through the maillist once, but I soon give up,
> and the BPFK section is good but incomplete.

BPFK is working only on cmavo and CLL.  Anything else is premature.

> With a better forum (like wordpress or similar) organised in separate
> topics, it would be easier to find the information you're looking for,
> and then it would also be a shorter way to start contributing (well you
> can contribute anyway ofcourse, but I think you do a better work when
> you're familiar with the discussions).

No one has time to be familiar with all of the discussions.  The mailing=20
list is at least searchable.  So is the wiki.

> So with little time to read all mails, my strategy is simply to write
> down all of my questions/propositions in the same mail and learn from
> the response I get.

Most people who could answer your questions won't read a long email.=20
Though marking the post with topic "several questions" might help catch=20
attention.

A small number of questions is more likely to get answered.

>Sorry for that. But still, if no one read "mail that
> long" does that mean all proposals must be short?

Proposals are being officially ignored, regardless of how long they are.

I think some people are adding proposals to various wiki pages in hopes=20
that they will someday be considered, but "someday" is still far off.

> Or is it even possible for someone non-BPFK to come with proposals?

It isn't even possible for someone *IN* BPFK to submit proposals on=20
topics not being addressed.

There aren't even procedures for doing so.

lojbab


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