Received: from mail-ye0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:34936) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TvDzo-0003TP-Iq; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:46 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f189.google.com with SMTP id r9sf385625yen.16 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=a4YTsYWSE35w43R595EdZzUzUiBygFBXeRFkWc96e3c=; b=DdVNqHU67k6i+EDuOpmHhlBhdt6sHD1lBN4VgkU9UzT1ygKzCmwXmy8ErA0j21OfjE p5Pp6TXbD3p3v4CG7snQeHfMrUbLWpEYNsB2/v7U1ITirwtxf7bZapv0Ogcn7mZOpk6a N+VRTdjvNL219cSExZXpgryDtbZrSi3P8dPYN1Ggi7/ufObbXnxAs6oJWjrBMD4/0xnw LIn471WQkrf48yRvGFtbKjhO2brqH/eMOwP2Kz183em8P/svxjxVXCKBZWROzhy4bhE1 Pd48CIT1SRy1/A2mlud5ef/edACKIxfIS0h6AROacIdc5iq7IGrQ8kVEl+JfwQ87wb+U rinw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=a4YTsYWSE35w43R595EdZzUzUiBygFBXeRFkWc96e3c=; b=oG/WL4U2zhSrTI/9rTB5zN/Jx46uTEYCsPtOh5AwreyoL8R9zjKM6dsBT7UfnUzglj +6WuPG+aGhHb9Z7anUlEMXnva80Vh7rlzEMRImSKWUuGXoShoouqU+vENCyR1hp6RNMn 52O/TCNOoBR7S5BFohBVBk2hPwsJRPREryo4NduSbe1BIYaBg5Sat7KU911x0tdJ8onh r1Zs2oY52ozgmRxnOHgUG302W78+2GQ2JvuxqERaKdSTYyxtqr9gkAMmWFrGxXcPRr+n 3cJktAy/kgbYxrGuIIiWt6G5IhiQ4bXLVmd8e/2dMx1KNF+dmdThYPmOuDCp9FcXyLlI 7auQ== X-Received: by 10.50.87.165 with SMTP id az5mr1509715igb.1.1358285068993; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.155.193 with SMTP id vy1ls604659igb.19.gmail; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.237.73 with SMTP id va9mr2903744igc.4.1358285068319; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.237.73 with SMTP id va9mr2903743igc.4.1358285068300; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com (mail-oa0-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ut11si378983igb.3.2013.01.15.13.24.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.43; Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k1so676032oag.16 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.149.106 with SMTP id tz10mr8127675obb.13.1358285068003; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.186.98 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:24:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20130109142120.GF14601@samsa.fritz.box> <50ED84E7.7070405@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] request for a new gismu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodic_memory From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9399c25fb678f04d35a6290 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9399c25fb678f04d35a6290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 'Course, I don't know why no one has mentioned the obvious-to-me solution. Unlike the se morji, the _te_morji is not strongly-cased to du'u. There is nothing wrong with saying "mi morji [zi'o?] fi lo li'i se tarbi"? --gejyspa On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Not the same thing, though, as we've been saying repeatedly; remembering > facts about an experience and the experience itself are different concepts. > > mi'e la latro'a mu'o > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM, selpa'i wrote: > >> la .van. cu cusku di'e >> >> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:09:17AM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote: >>> >>>> Isn't this just the distinction between remembering a nu and >>>> remembering a du'u? Or am I missing something? >>>> >>> >>> More between {morji lo du'u} and {morji lo li'i} >>> as was pointed out already. >>> >>> However, at the moment {morji} is restricted to {du'u} >>> (see definition), so normally you shouldn't be allowed >>> to use {morji} with {nu}/{li'i}. >>> >> >> Without adding any new gismu, there is also the possibility of: >> >> mi morji lo du'u ma kau li'i se tarbi >> I remember what it was like to be pregnant. >> >> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** >> googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/lojban?hl=en . >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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=A0 'Course, I don't know why no one has mentioned= the obvious-to-me solution. =A0Unlike the se morji, the _te_morji is not s= trongly-cased to du'u. =A0There is nothing wrong with saying "mi m= orji [zi'o?] fi lo li'i =A0se tarbi"?

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On Wed, Jan 9, 201= 3 at 4:44 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Not the same thing, though, as we've bee= n saying repeatedly; remembering facts about an experience and the experien= ce itself are different concepts.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> = wrote:
la .van. cu cusku di'e

On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:09:17AM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote:
Isn't this just the distinction between remembering a nu and
remembering a du'u? Or am I missing something?

More between {morji lo du'u} and {morji lo li'i}
as was pointed out already.

However, at the moment {morji} is restricted to {du'u}
(see definition), so normally you shouldn't be allowed
to use {morji} with {nu}/{li'i}.

Without adding any new gismu, there is also the possibility of:

mi morji lo du'u ma kau li'i se tarbi
I remember what it was like to be pregnant.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i


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