Received: from mail-ie0-f185.google.com ([209.85.223.185]:58478) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TvTUw-00034f-Os; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:57 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f185.google.com with SMTP id c10sf800363ieb.2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VjHJr97PCinu79+h/YmFxVvbIPORTX7LAYKUmxbsNV0=; b=xu1/za/L9LYrBNaDutke6o6Ko2q/MLFR7qGVzRI8uw/b1Bz8Y4BnrRaHvtrKNjMDBg n9bhQ1g6L+ZhZU7AuFQbMxOu7JklCAfckd/38dKRmWqnM4hYEl5qxJfU7kgYLgi51elh 0w7dc63nYtM36tAS9FzGaF39IlVzMp4LEiqcoNF6aq35GPBNS0k0LZJT8O57H1FJ97+2 48VqNPHDUJynzODy/wDsJ5FsriWmgz+WlWMsq13EI/5yxPe1vDdHCXlrsJD3R3fgbY18 qfCPAKJLnXN7IAESBn9EgiTgTuylAaZMEAXj0mlxIpkDtA9jifnti76+ZkX0hZXBwObe 1r3w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VjHJr97PCinu79+h/YmFxVvbIPORTX7LAYKUmxbsNV0=; b=r2+gveig3JnVv/EUs1HHrKm06B+1dWLwhycFpsQp2MQwbve8UZ3zm4M9M6jZax0+P+ n5M7YpQs4En6vf4t8aoHYLoj1yyKNq+tJzOZuFzwCYIwLBJ84wb2qjggFAs9B8yL6BQS a7b4xt52Vcx32SZylNT70/3FjLtotcXomCMYuvE50HVlrEOQCM1K/wNAeHDIg+xmQKzu h4xJZpCBEn7B5G2lGEsZVtO+W7ZLF36JjlXr6gxLILAvSJsLnPiRmB+AGSdoASJpA4Fu VWyG2BDSwmxrH6Ar2vhRVMJJdK2IH/4crx2Xc7GC3ImkT2P4O78+Hp70B2x4Yya6+aeP i+fQ== X-Received: by 10.50.108.137 with SMTP id hk9mr238757igb.15.1358344660529; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.89.230 with SMTP id br6ls3917166igb.38.canary; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.76.201 with SMTP id m9mr138999paw.33.1358344660147; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.76.201 with SMTP id m9mr138998paw.33.1358344660137; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-da0-f47.google.com (mail-da0-f47.google.com [209.85.210.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ab9si4291965pbd.1.2013.01.16.05.57.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.47; Received: by mail-da0-f47.google.com with SMTP id s35so580202dak.20 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.72.225 with SMTP id g1mr3737116pav.79.1358344659939; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.233.225 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:57:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7549994.bcZ8SLmLp3@caracal> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:57:39 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zergau From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >> That would have the additional side benefit of freeing up zergau for >> "politician". > > Sorry. "Legislator". I think "criminalize" is a better gloss for "zergau". For "legislator" I would suggest "flafi'i" (or "xelfla"), since not all laws are about crimes. >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>> There's a sentence "ti'e la .uengas. zergau" in the Book. "zergau", by >>> the >>> usual "-gau" rule, should mean "x1 makes x2 be a crime in x3's legal >>> system". >>> Wouldn't "zertra" be a better word for "criminal"? Yes, or "zerzu'e". This is a common mistake resulting from "gasnu" being misglossed as "do" rather than "make". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.