Received: from mail-gg0-f190.google.com ([209.85.161.190]:56116) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TvXs6-0005vA-2L; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:38:05 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f190.google.com with SMTP id l4sf932845ggn.17 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mieFn19Cv8foZ7d4YWeGkEkYlUQnvqKi5T02w8nfveE=; b=AxanF6EgwDXRE5ncNn8ZtbFE3NqMni0490OXEjLGgs5t8LDv1qHEaZ5Ye/+XhJezv/ yVhkkxIWoGe87uQ7z3N6ddbynG7At8f0tkH3Ja9HuyK0ae1Rne93d3SHd3YXpIyL5AyJ R0W14Pb1MLUqnn1bLwE3zIIg3kDhjQigDSOimyZBr983tmS7RCandMhgkygP0JVVzRgb 3gP1LmVorlHdJu68fg+QB1d/EEbzK909UBUE/IN8/1PnjLapAyqBKNQngFfVmHdgTbrr u4775OXC3pazwDlKl+pg6YexWYE6Qx410mlQJKHPg/0Hq1CWxWDBY19J5PNEL8H5ovd1 NEyw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mieFn19Cv8foZ7d4YWeGkEkYlUQnvqKi5T02w8nfveE=; b=mV23LRxf6myPOy3UgooEkeXEfO8Vtgtk+EN7YomCfT4VDJf1h26h4UHCJMjmMRtr9n 3fj5tVUo1exiYyKTGBv2mWNFCgofNa+467xzzCLb2xOWOh/80Z0tOiNxC99DzJxGR4iH iGqRv4KFlhZgYtNQhcn1bLqJljLBmCYcax6zN4iTY2vbCjvmWV4T+BSKDY2Pj2CnPFIu p5U9SOLntMjxWzpa0m0zKU7bopntkTt/ya253LCWO+cWXZNQtgzCLc3jf0kkLW7qbHA5 2Yi6o7zCL/zokTbAr+mntc9Xq707EsvGbdcDkmXvToFCV+7ttaTYR1YcOaGQyUhl9kbu Du8Q== X-Received: by 10.50.45.226 with SMTP id q2mr2263442igm.0.1358361471021; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.37.196 with SMTP id a4ls1301663igk.20.gmail; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.208.197 with SMTP id gd5mr1524392icb.18.1358361469574; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.208.197 with SMTP id gd5mr1524390icb.18.1358361469527; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s15si688470igi.1.2013.01.16.10.37.49 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.54; Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n9so1768582oag.13 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.32.200 with SMTP id l8mr1735774oei.43.1358361469221; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:37:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] darno/jibni From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f5b0d979b104d36c2c8f X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1f5b0d979b104d36c2c8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It really doesn't matter. As .lojbab. recently said on a different thread, the abstractions in () are just there to indicate that that place should have an abstraction, and whatever is in () is the kind(s) that are usually used. It's not restrictive. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Betsemes wrote: > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/jibni > jibni: x1 is near/close to/approximates x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni). > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/darno > darno: x1 is far/distant from x2 in property x3 (ka). > > Shouldn't darno's definition be "x1 is far/distant from x2 in > property/quantity x3 (ka/ni)"? > Or maybe jibni's definition be "x1 is near/close to/approximates x2 in > property x3 (ka)? > > Why the difference? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8fb1f5b0d979b104d36c2c8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really doesn't matter. As .lojbab. recently said on a different thre= ad, the abstractions in () are just there to indicate that that place shoul= d have an abstraction, and whatever is in () is the kind(s) that are usuall= y used.

It's not restrictive.

On Wed, Jan= 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
http:/= /jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/jibni
jibni: x1 is near/close to/approximates x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni).=

http:/= /jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/darno
darno: x1 is far/distant from x2 in property x3 (ka).

Shouldn't darno's definition be "x1 is far/distant from x2 in<= br> property/quantity x3 (ka/ni)"?
Or maybe jibni's definition be "x1 is near/close to/approximates x= 2 in
property x3 (ka)?

Why the difference?

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