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On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -
LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:

> Jonathan Jones wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org
>> <mailto:lojbab@lojban.org>> wrote:
>>
>
>
>>     And there are exactly 1357 gismu, with no more expected to be added
>>     for the indefinite future, because there is no defined procedure to
>>     even consider same, and the list is formally baselined.  We would
>>     use experimental Type IV rafsi-able fu'ivla before coining new gismu.
>>
>>
>> I count 1342. Where are these other 15?\
>>
>
> Probably in my quasi-senile memory.
>
> You are correct that the current list is 1342.  At one point before the
> current baseline it was 1357.  But alas, I have scrubbed my computer of
> obsolete lists to the point where finding the old lists is a non-trivial
> effort.  Since the last change before the baseline added 20 words (look for
> JL15 on the website to see the list), I'm not entirely sure how the number
> got to its current state.  I don't think we deleted that many. I'd probably
> have to dig through the paper archives to find some of the prior lists.
>
> In any event 1357 is the number stuck in my mind from the earliest days,
> and I notice that I've (erroneously) used it a couple other times since the
> list was baselined.
>
> http://wiw.org/~jkominek/**lojban/9106/msg00107.html<http://wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00107.html>
> is one reference showing the old list size.
>

Wow, I haven't seen a bangpath in forever. :)


> I note in passing regarding recent historical discussion that JL16 has a
> discussion of the kinds of changes made in the place structures in the last
> review before the final baseline.
>
>
>
> lojbab
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Bob LeChevalier=
, President and Founder - LLG <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojba=
b@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojban.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Robert LeChevalier &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojban.org</a><br></div>
&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lo=
jban.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
<br>
=A0 =A0 And there are exactly 1357 gismu, with no more expected to be added=
<br>
=A0 =A0 for the indefinite future, because there is no defined procedure to=
<br>
=A0 =A0 even consider same, and the list is formally baselined. =A0We would=
<br>
=A0 =A0 use experimental Type IV rafsi-able fu&#39;ivla before coining new =
gismu.<br>
<br>
<br></div>
I count 1342. Where are these other 15?\<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Probably in my quasi-senile memory.<br>
<br>
You are correct that the current list is 1342. =A0At one point before the c=
urrent baseline it was 1357. =A0But alas, I have scrubbed my computer of ob=
solete lists to the point where finding the old lists is a non-trivial effo=
rt. =A0Since the last change before the baseline added 20 words (look for J=
L15 on the website to see the list), I&#39;m not entirely sure how the numb=
er got to its current state. =A0I don&#39;t think we deleted that many. I&#=
39;d probably have to dig through the paper archives to find some of the pr=
ior lists.<br>

<br>
In any event 1357 is the number stuck in my mind from the earliest days, an=
d I notice that I&#39;ve (erroneously) used it a couple other times since t=
he list was baselined.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9106/msg00107.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://wiw.org/~jkominek/<u></u>lojban/9106/msg00107.html</a><br>
is one reference showing the old list size.<br></blockquote><div><br>Wow, I=
 haven&#39;t seen a bangpath in forever. :)<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">


I note in passing regarding recent historical discussion that JL16 has a di=
scussion of the kinds of changes made in the place structures in the last r=
eview before the final baseline.<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
<br>
lojbab<br>
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