Received: from mail-vc0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:54402) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TxBKh-0001Kt-DD; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:58:30 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f190.google.com with SMTP id fw7sf1284026vcb.17 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:58:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=a5F2IEsPMX4W4JWrgR5jtHgBcDjMpiVuWOl8dwafv0k=; b=iRqAOT23Bpm0AgkXxkRXXMiTwBthS47hYQ53ikXWj7BluE7rLwas5JRK+XyztcYPHG s2BDO+MyIMSY0cQ3/JzHpsb3+TV6bIY0Iyl7uzitgE4txhHacg4TX3C2PZYS2gIENe8C c1SibnKJ2eGzrlRxKjo/mS9FkbFPFbYxC0Q06a8dFVH7sj1qgmI62YVzbBaNfskbHzJi GeNbAVKmFP2/e09RwfII6p7eGfMstXijF7sqGEUH7rCqq7V1fTCn0EuuFDZWkQHyW5sL Unu1hOSu79/uX19GRn3YCCqmBsF/G8ly7DCyQCS1QlAInYty0d3ZLPggeOML7z0toJJf mDEw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=a5F2IEsPMX4W4JWrgR5jtHgBcDjMpiVuWOl8dwafv0k=; b=P9LX0UNf4AflicMfztqFv23AdXbI3OpHosgvsBvMDI4JWMgKDzsIqEHvYw6ZVvc8Bd Qr4A3yYP56jwQfsEH+uCqkVt5ojqWa2glv6zGdRUqx9bEP9+a+E6fjFlXyT+OICGw9jv nuXN9OACuc9kK6UNPBQx9MhRsZS5YG08h0EzP2AMhZH8KM6Oc+P6H8F0JEzFg+ipEqUa 5WaCTjU1F8g0gKYztyyQlegKGAik3UdTTkqBJLqMkQ8nHyFucXLL4J+oExgo0vv+9Mi9 qARtab/YomtBK9YpDwEIP2/MklV6y5rOn24WRyMhZFKlgun6qlizErqgPPugeSvtrPXg c3bQ== X-Received: by 10.49.58.140 with SMTP id r12mr3561606qeq.35.1358751488624; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:58:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.0.102 with SMTP id 6ls3422583qed.24.gmail; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:58:07 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.60.40 with SMTP id e8mr3499518qer.40.1358751487893; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:58:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <15473058-b9d9-4580-a780-11b2afc9c5d1@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <7bb6cb21-7b04-4e93-984e-e8ce89fef8aa@googlegroups.com> <5502ACF2-F3C6-4E4D-9216-34E0134162C5@gmail.com> <028135a0-cafd-429a-9f12-dad439cd4fef@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Semantic categorisation of gismu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20_5302499.1358751487431" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_20_5302499.1358751487431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:57:51 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote: > > Also, I really like the idea. I'd do it myself, if I hadn't much other=20 > work to do and my own unfinished projects. Notice that words "*I'd do it myself, if I hadn't " ?* That's what a language without an official solution on subjunctives results= =20 in. zo'o ta'onai I don't think there can be a perfect solution on those tags. Whose= =20 system of categorisation is the best? Mine? Or zort's? Notice that we even started from the same point. However I think that creating a hypergraph (3d mind map) using hyperlinks= =20 to other gismu in notes field of every gismu would be nice. > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:32:21 AM UTC+1, ianek wrote: >> >> If there'll ever be jbovlaste 2.0, then adding tags wouldn't add much=20 >> work (in my opinion as a programmer). >> >> mu'o mi'e ianek >> >> On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:01:16 PM UTC+1, jongausib wrote: >>> >>> Not that I want to post another wish list, but an ability to attach=20 >>> "cathegory tags" to valsi, directly in jbovlaste would be really, reall= y=20 >>> great! >>> So you can then use such tags to group valsi into different semantic=20 >>> classes for possible export to different projects such as Flashcard,=20 >>> learning material etc. With the possibility to admit different, paralle= l=20 >>> systems of classification. >>> I'm not a programmer so maybe this is too much to ask for? And then=20 >>> perhaps the list gleki mentioned here might be useful after all? >>> >>> Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone >>> >>> 18 jan 2013 kl. 10:09 skrev la gleki : >>> >>> I noticed that zort had imported semantic list from jwodder web site. >>> >>> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Semantic+categorization+of+gismu >>> >>> I should say that one year ago i started a similar project starting fro= m=20 >>> the same list. >>> However, the list has diverted too far from the original.=20 >>> In my list every gismu can belong to several semantic classes at the=20 >>> same time. >>> Here it is >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1E= WlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE#gid=3D28 >>> >>> I will finish it myself (around 100 gismu are left) but don't expect me= =20 >>> to be active here. >>> >>> Everyone is free to use my work in their own projects. Copy it, modify= =20 >>> it in your projects. >>> Any suggestions are welcome. >>> >>> Of course, semantic lists cannot be perfect. 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On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:57:51 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote:Also, I really like the idea. I'd do it= myself, if I hadn't much other work to do and my own unfinished projects.<= /blockquote>

Notice that words "I'd do it myself, if = I hadn't "  ?
That's what a language without an off= icial solution on subjunctives results in. zo'o


ta'onai I don't think there can be a perfect solution on t= hose tags. Whose system of categorisation is the best?
Mine? Or z= ort's? Notice that we even started from the same point.

However I think that creating a hypergraph (3d mind map) using hyperl= inks to other gismu in notes field of every gismu would be nice.
=



mu'o mi'e ianek

On Sunday, January 20,= 2013 10:32:21 AM UTC+1, ianek wrote:
Not that I want to pos= t another wish list, but an ability to attach "cathegory tags" to valsi, di= rectly in jbovlaste would be really, really great!
So you can the= n use such tags to group valsi into different semantic classes for possible= export to different projects such as Flashcard, learning material etc. Wit= h the possibility to admit different, parallel  systems of classificat= ion.
I'm not a programmer so maybe this is too much to ask for? A= nd then perhaps the list gleki mentioned here might be useful after all?
Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone

18 jan 2013 kl. 10:09 skrev la= gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com>:

I noticed that zort had imported semantic list from jwo= dder web site.


I should say that one year ago i started a similar project starting= from the same list.
However, the list has diverted too far f= rom the original. 
In my list every gismu can belong to seve= ral semantic classes at the same time.
Here it is
https://docs.google.com/s= preadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddDZBRzgwMm1EWlpKUEJRcTQtUGNCMFE= #gid=3D28

I will finish it myself (around 100 gi= smu are left) but don't expect me to be active here.

Everyone is free to use my work in their own projects. Copy it, modify i= t in your projects.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Of course, semantic lists cannot be perfect. So this list does= n't remove the need in continuing zort's work.

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