Received: from mail-ia0-f192.google.com ([209.85.210.192]:49127) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TzU1r-0004SV-9n; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:29 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f192.google.com with SMTP id r13sf1024902iar.9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uosBvr6HS2AXlU46nPMab/CQ67wnmughw9bKNEOBbGw=; b=aaAvaIo2zFmSn+1H2qySAzC5zK2D7g3GJ5zlfR8dlTDUNKYBNTbVNIo9+KRDbuiBLe 1o+T4vMqSwLOHenLqMtZx2KdBfszpdS3gW8v5Trt4YAxtwvaviHsv/+MSyiSev8v7CXy iNIHkb/aCyDt5acC54vNaF75WEUKdfy7jStqgvpUA71QkVK08cV7607ltRD7cDQKAyg9 YW+eWgu5WZ7Vj8Z5mnyFUwtn67eKPW0+spwPZpmqvZgNKAebbTUsjSbaAYJCXinibgpr BVBJmJXgrOZJedBgvi/KTH9wuwA3hQ46wt+elQQ60eTKmwuKg60N5AcUzqE/wROCEPAe G0sw== X-Received: by 10.49.58.238 with SMTP id u14mr2053663qeq.13.1359300010320; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.117.167 with SMTP id kf7ls761663qeb.40.gmail; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.179.103 with SMTP id g67mr6006280yhm.47.1359300008423; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.179.103 with SMTP id g67mr6006278yhm.47.1359300008414; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from leopard.ixazon.lan (cpe-069-132-098-107.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.98.107]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o23si302953yhl.7.2013.01.27.07.20.08; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.132.98.107; Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:6170:dbc2:1e8a:24a7]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAD7DC45 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Aesop's "The Wolf and the Crane" Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1696426.fuu6unn560@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-35-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:38:00 Remo Dentato wrote: > A link would be probably useful :) > > http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/ According to jbovlaste, "tunlo" does not have an x2. According to jbofi'e, it does. Normally in Lojban, unlike English, French, and I suppose also Italian, one does not switch from the indefinite article to the definite on second reference. "le" indicates that the speaker has something in mind, but not that he expects the listener to know what it is. Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.