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This should be done with {bi'u nai} instead, if the explicitness is
desired. It is somewhat of a shame that {lo bi'u nai} is as long as it is.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> About lo/le, I have the habit of switching to {le} when I talk about a
> specific thing that might have been introduced with {lo}.
> After having said {lo labno noi ....} any time I write {le labno} I mean
> *that* wolf. If I wrote {lo labno} I might mean another wolf.
> Actually I do expect the listener to understand which one I mean, of
> course I'm not guaranteed that he/she will but, if I'm careful, I hope I
> can be understood. Otherwise it would rather useless to me.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:38:00 Remo Dentato wrote:
>> > A link would be probably useful :)
>> >
>> > http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/
>>
>> According to jbovlaste, "tunlo" does not have an x2. According to
>> jbofi'e, it
>> does.
>>
>> Normally in Lojban, unlike English, French, and I suppose also Italian,
>> one
>> does not switch from the indefinite article to the definite on second
>> reference.
>> "le" indicates that the speaker has something in mind, but not that he
>> expects
>> the listener to know what it is.
>>
>> Pierre
>> --
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This should be done with {bi&#39;u nai} instead, if the explicitness is des=
ired. It is somewhat of a shame that {lo bi&#39;u nai} is as long as it is.=
<br><br>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><br></div>About lo/le, I have the habit of =
switching to {le} when I talk about a specific thing that might have been i=
ntroduced with {lo}.<br></div>After having said {lo labno noi ....} any tim=
e I write {le labno} I mean *that* wolf. If I wrote {lo labno} I might mean=
 another wolf.<br>

</div>Actually I do expect the listener to understand which one I mean, of =
course I&#39;m not guaranteed that he/she will but, if I&#39;m careful, I h=
ope I can be understood. Otherwise it would rather useless to me.<br><br>

</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Pierre Ab=
bat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:38:00 Re=
mo Dentato wrote:<br>
&gt; A link would be probably useful :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/</a><br>
<br>
</div>According to jbovlaste, &quot;tunlo&quot; does not have an x2. Accord=
ing to jbofi&#39;e, it<br>
does.<br>
<br>
Normally in Lojban, unlike English, French, and I suppose also Italian, one=
<br>
does not switch from the indefinite article to the definite on second refer=
ence.<br>
&quot;le&quot; indicates that the speaker has something in mind, but not th=
at he expects<br>
the listener to know what it is.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Pierre<br>
--<br>
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