Received: from mail-yh0-f56.google.com ([209.85.213.56]:52428) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TztJ7-0005Ob-Vw; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:59 -0800 Received: by mail-yh0-f56.google.com with SMTP id 28sf1792826yhr.21 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tyhuratgXYjGqNm2c+AxYZWDjlg4yUOsRwCswh6Zd0w=; b=fS3mDI6U7YohceP9wXQ5bmq43A7yVlFbcyizxi0DGMdRT++Wf4qFXG9NsUtyR6UH4a 99RWD6nTcIg/ZmCjb6FqFjvRk8H4wVrrJMtDS22E0HJgrau6o9289nDnN7ZgFj3gbLkP 70GQ2eIRMvJ8rldEoP/nEw4l5RxKz7KMjYzG70jxjXLm8eM0wapcY9XqLzImoNWySZhw qOo2EiNh6ZZR2TT4thP3o2abm3A/MGPPH9OluyabBsPkKIfXq6uzy/Xrpv84+WUrZS/W AxtZdEPldhBXn36mQE+pE7lE8lVn6vzKVKuYUONyuXkwO3MrepVMDthfhud1f5lZO/xH vtcA== X-Received: by 10.49.48.41 with SMTP id i9mr2399159qen.36.1359397183579; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.62.71 with SMTP id w7ls1097068qer.88.gmail; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.82.102 with SMTP id n66mr950920yhe.28.1359397183153; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.82.102 with SMTP id n66mr950919yhe.28.1359397183082; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from leopard.ixazon.lan ([2001:470:8:42:75ee:d7c9:c35d:4e6f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u28si499840yhm.1.2013.01.28.10.19.42; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:75ee:d7c9:c35d:4e6f is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:75ee:d7c9:c35d:4e6f; Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:2479:7fae:8fbc:356]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BA4C933 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:19:39 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Aesop's "The Wolf and the Crane" Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:19:30 -0500 Message-ID: <2082237.059J5OARCj@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-35-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:75ee:d7c9:c35d:4e6f is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday, January 27, 2013 22:07:21 Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > > This should be done with {bi'u nai} instead, if the explicitness is > > desired. It is somewhat of a shame that {lo bi'u nai} is as long as it is. > > I disagree. {le} is the specific article, he's referring to a specific > thing. This is the reason why {le} exists. So you can say "le bi'u" the first time, and "le" thereafter. See "le cmalu bloti". Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.