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On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban From: Feilen Haksan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: feilen1000@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of feilen1000@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=feilen1000@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005141acdb02504d4751650 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf3005141acdb02504d4751650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well... Ideally you two should figure it out directly before I put any continuous effort into either project. On Jan 29, 2013 2:24 AM, "la gleki" wrote: > > > On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:43:48 PM UTC+4, Feilen Haksan wrote: >> >> So... for the time being, I've got an enormous amount of free time on my >> hands, and am very interested in modernizing the lojban website. If anyone >> has a specific workload in mind that they'd like to see on the wiki, let me >> know and I'll see what I can do about it :D > > > > So. Idlework from the irc chat is working on a CMS based on Django. It's > going to be not just a wiki but rather an intergration of jvs, wiki, > CLL..... > Good luck to him. > > However, don't you think that there is a problem here, namely a split of > efforts? > > We can't be sure whether he finishes this project and we shouldn't wait > either. > > So I suggest once again leaving the old wiki as it is. > > > Now let's think that Lojban has been just born. What do we need for a wiki? > > 1. Textbook (the Waves) and a link to CLL. > 2. Texts, multimedia with links to them. > 3. Some brief informaton about the history of the language. > 4. Some brief information about the difference between CLL and the current > state of affairs (but it's better to move it into the Waves). > > > That's all! Have I missed something? > > This is how we can start working on the new wiki (mw.lojban.org). > > If Idelwork succeeds then we'll transfer the content of LMW and the whoe > jvs database into his project. > Until then let's use the best we have. > > Feilen, I hope these 4 items are clear enough. Make the wiki the way you > would like it to be. > And don't be shy. Ask questions here :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --20cf3005141acdb02504d4751650 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well... Ideally you two should figure it out directly before= I put any continuous effort into either project.

On Jan 29, 2013 2:24 AM, "la gleki" &l= t;gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:


On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:43:48 PM UTC+4, Feilen Haksan wrote:=
So... for the time being, I've = got an enormous amount of free time on my hands, and am very interested in = modernizing the lojban website. If anyone has a specific workload in mind t= hat they'd like to see on the wiki, let me know and I'll see what I= can do about it :D


So. Idlework from the irc chat is workin= g on a CMS based on Django. It's going to be not just a wiki but rather= an intergration of jvs, wiki, CLL.....
Good luck to him.=A0

Howe= ver, don't you think that there is a problem here, namely a split of ef= forts?

We can't be sure whether he finishes this project and we shouldn= 9;t wait either.

So I suggest once again leaving t= he old wiki as it is.


Now let's think that Lojban has been j= ust born. What do we need for a wiki?

1. Textbook (the Waves) and a link to CLL.
2. Texts, multimedia with= links to them.
3. Some brief informaton about the history of the langua= ge.
4. Some brief information about the difference between CLL and the c= urrent state of affairs (but it's better to move it into the Waves).

That's all! Have I missed something?

This is = how we can start working on the new wiki (mw.lojban.org).

If Idelwork succeeds then we&#= 39;ll transfer the content of LMW and the whoe jvs database into his projec= t.
Until then let's use the best we have.

Feilen, I hope these 4 it= ems are clear enough. Make the wiki the way you would like it to be.
And= don't be shy. Ask questions here :)

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