Received: from mail-ve0-f186.google.com ([209.85.128.186]:64664) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U1fJR-0005v9-Hb; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:41 -0800 Received: by mail-ve0-f186.google.com with SMTP id ox1sf1071454veb.13 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sxoG5eNDXOtvzmyWvEuA7oAJPHyWQXzovxtH3srHTf4=; b=b/+WU5NRK/kBkErJoQHQl2k/FB8FcupgqHuabi72vhUnW9Fr2aCAmGfnc3HwzO8/cK ig2DdKS+rSSv3uKI8sxJbA+rmawroMGuDrEHCTPIbP/dCsfTvOlAs73PaHrV7ZvOqKzF OMiiqZOShMmhNUs3QIjNfsnK0jbmmyhc4XwQciKvYWqSjYKtqr7KyQKPaXdsTnuoVjl/ gAOAU27xcMAHBo5vCf3f+NC/J3IgTDnbrNQ4KzlJOtnZWeXU5rGOmhXZusaFPC6u8ppo 6dfVh6uk7Xn23xxAXKghcQH63DPDtsuXX2Yzu5mCH/UitnVEj/I+1DFsKStnc1VFQncC GlVQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sxoG5eNDXOtvzmyWvEuA7oAJPHyWQXzovxtH3srHTf4=; b=ommkq0By1ZuWKsXUYhPCW/GVShAKuhUr0vHZ2zgZIFUQtOtIV+QD691LdzBy6M26y5 VaqQSGo8SOARxGq/O0ByK0UAR581fa8UVdInJerCtvvXt6JUrkijMNxUZ5vR21MYI9GU ymznIglcUv59DYqhoIoDofdpjsRNlAcLxSk/UB3PhdnkpdhKFLDHOWzaJJHUVgaJOS1d IgVrQONhqSvLk+AIazSJyGPUloGjpXuacqT465pwtyn3qRdHLDCsDKWBr6Q5A25lOqEt lzDZCEadrw+j1Vify5usYEMbFK9TQIcPeMp2x5yNOftnehMfF6POYMLZxaQzSk76DiLC MdeA== X-Received: by 10.50.207.100 with SMTP id lv4mr234609igc.1.1359820042659; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.108.197 with SMTP id hm5ls838475igb.7.gmail; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.72.3 with SMTP id z3mr2445373pau.40.1359820042236; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.72.3 with SMTP id z3mr2445372pau.40.1359820042226; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uz6si1738053pbc.0.2013.02.02.07.47.22 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.54; Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fa10so1037129pad.27 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.197.71 with SMTP id is7mr41469739pbc.79.1359820042162; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.233.225 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 12:47:22 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {makau} {mokau} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM, .arpis. wrote: > As far as I understand, {makau} etc. are analogous to {ce'u}, except in > {du'u} abstractions instead of {ka} abstractions. You can have both "ce'u" and "makau" in ka. For example: lo nanmu lo ninmu cu frica lo ka ce'u ma kau na'o dasni "Men and women differ in what they typically wear." lo va botpi cu rirci lo ka ce'u ma kau vasru gi'e ku'i fadni lo ka ma kau ce'u tarmi "That bottle there is unusual in what it contains, but ordinary in what shape it is." "ce'u" can usually be translated to English as "they" (or I/you/he/she/it). "makau" can usually be translated as "what" or "who". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.