Received: from mail-da0-f56.google.com ([209.85.210.56]:62400) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U1fLZ-0005wv-PX; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:49:52 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f56.google.com with SMTP id g9sf1925544dad.11 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:49:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zVYISWvASYWd6li+GDt1OD336h5wThBkL4q+4v/wHns=; b=DpAULBLk7u5+P920eaIr94pNdYqkeK9/tlV7oQVnvRlgIUp1s/zLPVxgeLkxK82rqv 4Blt7X0cwYeVt0/alJgEaC5HRrgSwFp352qRPVfCa+nj6/mV7I9ILBIMqQ1VgklgMhGD 0Jz3ATfRJ6pBD0atOap347XD9suQvqxDhwztOxfdNKcI8s8XCVt36IErcTgQCJTF89Hh 1g/ytidlHH4YyOyFoJ/Mu+5miIUWKGnDzZMFq0Uk6F/OE9b9mQKRJZ6uYeJUuTyzWyHx 4hxWEOPnRzr//m83r/K7KgokW6Xh1B0J9rRhs0HyFY676l4Y7BirWOE4TakZzGEeIRnp 6UHQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zVYISWvASYWd6li+GDt1OD336h5wThBkL4q+4v/wHns=; b=GnWljc2pIfz6yvDqov2C8MJUmiGz9QEhCRKVzH4HqnXSbmPbWT/FXkew2XcGxzjT1v KaL1xaZP+Ypr2Z69+TT9Nh4aotAs8eENwj6iIQhdn0hKmFFh99UUtj9FGFTLspFqCh9E mTT1JJPDfKkGlCO4xrl8fotn4adlo0dfAjuZLOMvjJg0559IPoG9F3Bkdrnse/rJTk/k sm4nePJRRmmiee2hatm7e94p6JRemySH11NWZ0P69XWfuqYg5w2NHQyHvay99Jn4RKV9 b6JReatlinz73wQqccNIClRLhFvsLeUOKQjsRP9tM6GE3Mec26V8bxwaKeY7MBsTnmWD qaKg== X-Received: by 10.49.84.167 with SMTP id a7mr1445334qez.11.1359820175421; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:49:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.129.135 with SMTP id nw7ls1584969qeb.94.gmail; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:49:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.4.231 with SMTP id n7mr1440272qen.34.1359820174153; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:49:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 07:49:33 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> <60b24557-d28a-4330-91e2-4fa350f35cbd@googlegroups.com> <6cb197db-5690-48fb-8a88-3e633bb6f94b@googlegroups.com> <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> <20121113194725.GL22972@sunflowerriver.org> <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <6f3b2944-f92a-47e2-97ea-abd12820b36c@googlegroups.com> <1aada734-df80-43b2-8ec3-1597c1865abc@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2965_32811602.1359820173826" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2965_32811602.1359820173826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:41:05 AM UTC+4, Feilen Haksan wrote: > > Well... Ideally you two should figure it out directly before I put any > continuous effort into either project. > Look here http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/jbobau_selci%27a/en See that message "This article contains links to articles from the lojban.org Tiki Wiki. If possible, please add up-to-date articles to this Wiki to replace the external links." ? So if you have time it'd be best to copy the text of those translated texts from external sources to the wiki. Another primary goal for a lojbanist that has free time would be to write a new textbook for beginners, e.g. base on existing one (the Waves, L4B, CLL). Yes, I know, there is no direct connection with the wiki. Still, if you have free time... :) On Jan 29, 2013 2:24 AM, "la gleki" > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:43:48 PM UTC+4, Feilen Haksan wrote: >>> >>> So... for the time being, I've got an enormous amount of free time on my >>> hands, and am very interested in modernizing the lojban website. If anyone >>> has a specific workload in mind that they'd like to see on the wiki, let me >>> know and I'll see what I can do about it :D >> >> >> >> So. Idlework from the irc chat is working on a CMS based on Django. It's >> going to be not just a wiki but rather an intergration of jvs, wiki, >> CLL..... >> Good luck to him. >> >> However, don't you think that there is a problem here, namely a split of >> efforts? >> >> We can't be sure whether he finishes this project and we shouldn't wait >> either. >> >> So I suggest once again leaving the old wiki as it is. >> >> >> Now let's think that Lojban has been just born. What do we need for a >> wiki? >> >> 1. Textbook (the Waves) and a link to CLL. >> 2. Texts, multimedia with links to them. >> 3. Some brief informaton about the history of the language. >> 4. Some brief information about the difference between CLL and the >> current state of affairs (but it's better to move it into the Waves). >> >> >> That's all! Have I missed something? >> >> This is how we can start working on the new wiki (mw.lojban.org). >> >> If Idelwork succeeds then we'll transfer the content of LMW and the whoe >> jvs database into his project. >> Until then let's use the best we have. >> >> Feilen, I hope these 4 items are clear enough. Make the wiki the way you >> would like it to be. >> And don't be shy. Ask questions here :) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:41:05 AM UTC+4, Feilen Haksan wrot= e:

Well... Ideal= ly you two should figure it out directly before I put any continuous effort= into either project.


Look here http://= mw.lojban.org/index.php/jbobau_selci%27a/en

See th= at message "This article contains links to articles from the lojban.org Tik= i Wiki. If possible, please add up-to-date articles to this Wiki to replace= the external links." ?

So if you have time it'd b= e best to copy the text of those translated texts from external sources to = the wiki.


Another primary goal for = a lojbanist that has free time would be to write a new textbook for beginne= rs, e.g. base on existing one (the Waves, L4B, CLL). Yes, I know, there is = no direct connection with the wiki. Still, if you have free time... :)

On Jan 29, 2013 2:24 AM, "la gleki" <g= leki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:43:48 PM UTC+4, Feilen Haksan wrote:=
So... for the time being, I've got = an enormous amount of free time on my hands, and am very interested in mode= rnizing the lojban website. If anyone has a specific workload in mind that = they'd like to see on the wiki, let me know and I'll see what I can do abou= t it :D


So. Idlework from the irc chat is workin= g on a CMS based on Django. It's going to be not just a wiki but rather an = intergration of jvs, wiki, CLL.....
Good luck to him. 

Howev= er, don't you think that there is a problem here, namely a split of efforts= ?

We can't be sure whether he finishes this project and we shouldn't wait= either.

So I suggest once again leaving the old w= iki as it is.


Now let's think that Lojban has been just born. Wh= at do we need for a wiki?

1. Textbook (the Waves) and a link to CLL.
2. Texts, multimedia with= links to them.
3. Some brief informaton about the history of the langua= ge.
4. Some brief information about the difference between CLL and the c= urrent state of affairs (but it's better to move it into the Waves).


That's all! Have I missed something?

This is how = we can start working on the new wiki (mw.lojban.org).

If Idelwork succeeds then we'll tr= ansfer the content of LMW and the whoe jvs database into his project.
Until then let's use the best we have.

Feilen, I hope these 4 items = are clear enough. Make the wiki the way you would like it to be.
And don= 't be shy. Ask questions here :)

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