Received: from mail-ob0-f188.google.com ([209.85.214.188]:52305) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U3mn3-0006xw-Rv; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:11:00 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f188.google.com with SMTP id wc18sf1219231obb.15 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xjIjZfZHslEX/QQ0kqs1gvRNx3ju5AAdfZQiM8QqktM=; b=ADERq1s2qOy9FWWHF0NihghYg09BsuCpnLPX5mVoB0yrKpjGua9MfR+kOfcepj0IE1 Tdj5HKJJX8PvKvWCAVw2EYPaQufq7p2u+NokJezld9RcLO+yuyg2sKKaqchIgnN3c6dT oEHDtPxKJg9lEYR69iNzd4tycTOiRiGIX5WfzFto4ZuRhAbVboFhkNn8MMl3wX75+hG8 OsET3Ayfleh/gil+0ipqrK1RauUb/UUDs2JlWGgRrubu6MN93J1qTWeJhCLCTTlXfiS5 lcgk5dThjGcBxdm/Pt/KmAk4XdVWHDooy9bZgi57HNXi3CjsnEfA7KlEimEVKPkMeM38 g/4g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xjIjZfZHslEX/QQ0kqs1gvRNx3ju5AAdfZQiM8QqktM=; b=aNyhqCgy/nfrYYsmh8GsIk718gA49+xs1hxG4hv9VTDDiXz1dx2xeW62eB4yCf5vnE PGObDBoESEj1cGqQ+Lk0M3gexppAnymxQCx/rp69MHO9jpcfC1LKgIH8Gw3J4oEP9QuM jo5nCHwEiPg/pX1gVlMuRZMuxAmfkrK3YSDn98F6Wvqx/4i62pZG6cAVq6c1E7Wvg27L 17bzfElrdWwVj3wNGTTL4gvVMj3ZVjTNgnBFb2a+7SAj7FCk/jixRYpO6Il55T9CY/XP 9e7KbwQCbvkk78Oogb+1Ay8WI3aLmqMGePzyhB5T4126HuvTMQU2OnasaQ85Y0BI5C9u B9Zg== X-Received: by 10.49.1.162 with SMTP id 2mr400426qen.2.1360325442562; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.62.71 with SMTP id w7ls1012125qer.88.gmail; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.225.193 with SMTP id rm1mr2479696vec.10.1360325441718; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.225.193 with SMTP id rm1mr2479695vec.10.1360325441699; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b1si7623956vdw.2.2013.02.08.04.10.41 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.128.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.128.169; Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 15so3302277vea.28 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.220.115.72 with SMTP id h8mr6093034vcq.43.1360325441552; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:10:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.188.116 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:10:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <84d88820-8c7d-436b-a0cc-222666747afd@googlegroups.com> References: <84d88820-8c7d-436b-a0cc-222666747afd@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:10:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] strange behaviour of {cortu} To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.128.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04389455b9013704d5357272 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04389455b9013704d5357272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:18 AM, la gleki wrote: > Many are speaking these days about internal place structure of brivla > (relations between djuno2 and djuno3 is one example) which has been > probably inspired by gua\spi. > > I just found another example, a little more interesting. > > {cortu} x1 hurts/feels pain/hurt at locus x2. > > What this brivla should really look like is > {ko'a cortu lo broda be vo'a} > e.g. > {mi cortu lo stedu be mi} > {mi cortu lo tuple be mi} > > But if we remove one of {mi} in any example this won't lead to any > ambiguity. Indeed, where can i feel pain if not in some part of me? > I feel your pain. stevo > Of course such technologies as described in Avatar film might raise this > question again but even then the avatar controlled by you would be a part > of your double body. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:18 AM, la glek= i <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Many are speaking these days about internal place structure of brivla = (relations between djuno2 and djuno3 is one example) which has been probabl= y inspired by gua\spi.

I just found another exampl= e, a little more interesting.

{cortu} x1 hurts/feels pain/hurt at locus x2.

What this brivla should really look like is=A0
{ko'a= cortu lo broda be vo'a}
e.g.
{mi cortu lo stedu be= mi}
{mi cortu lo tuple be mi}

But if we remove on= e of {mi} in any example this won't lead to any ambiguity. Indeed, wher= e can i feel pain if not in some part of me?

I feel your pain.=A0

stevo
= =A0
Of course such technologies as= described in Avatar film might raise this question again but even then the= avatar controlled by you would be a part of your double body.

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