Received: from mail-ie0-f188.google.com ([209.85.223.188]:43801) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U3o2z-0007Gi-Kr; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:31:49 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f188.google.com with SMTP id 16sf1161125iea.15 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:31:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Db6V+V7ggd8IumWB0b1V0Dz81BdKSxA6qNVLZFc4M6I=; b=nnhcPv/6D3BV9h/9hnOehn3pAQNtRHAc+5oDQK/3bYOm3/9iYp280efnfu0tPoHju+ yMifuX5cTnd9IpNy3C2zCg+dkrR672q0ih93zNdM1K4+aNenSqt0V8YLJzlGAqYWq43a 2ELtwgpRjWPQ4fh+qhSjUt0yE1fo9URqghouadKBar90uSwr49NIxgBSJ6ShrK/2+c8j foNpwAE+2sCGxbzgkV0ngPKWo4Iy5PR26fTQuYaNK0HgxOqN61EbA4IZ6pZwkhSfoWBK oBRfPSmhMnaQ32LZiDVKy/iMm8ONBGJcKOB8Zs5b+9flB5RvQOTxxnnq4zFqkxqc5r/8 rJwA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Db6V+V7ggd8IumWB0b1V0Dz81BdKSxA6qNVLZFc4M6I=; b=L1fbVVL22vI4s/fJ+63luFquW5N2mih7eb+4CwW+2b0nmZBFvj6vqcc3X20gTXauIi 77AKQM5czBpsxFGwBUyM/sqF1ExrHLf8KOED99VYvxzfRTLcqjXymesrYtKF7fDeaEzn gwR10DJEPQaI7Mh7Lk2a/s4hc0E1gAUWAE+xAnqN+ytU0oQhRaMpLAQrOJiFQTbvS+Uk p08uUQXbbTvrQzxZ92FJBenMFaTiCqVFjGoEHqPJj4vh901dlBp6iJ17IUkCY8egmRhs 2q8OykmC9/OsRzBq+gqFSu220p6JPQL+cst1e0+En99+cAnFY932qJDDTGbGnv2ZKulN tLbA== X-Received: by 10.49.71.135 with SMTP id v7mr418458qeu.28.1360330274695; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:31:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.106.133 with SMTP id gu5ls1040498qeb.14.gmail; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:31:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.71.135 with SMTP id v7mr418453qeu.28.1360330273972; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:31:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:31:13 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <8ee92f95-8885-4016-87e0-d6c649fe37b9@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <84d88820-8c7d-436b-a0cc-222666747afd@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] strange behaviour of {cortu} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_733_25281201.1360330273060" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_733_25281201.1360330273060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, February 8, 2013 3:10:11 PM UTC+3, stevo wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:18 AM, la gleki > > wrote: > >> Many are speaking these days about internal place structure of brivla >> (relations between djuno2 and djuno3 is one example) which has been >> probably inspired by gua\spi. >> >> I just found another example, a little more interesting. >> >> {cortu} x1 hurts/feels pain/hurt at locus x2. >> >> What this brivla should really look like is >> {ko'a cortu lo broda be vo'a} >> e.g. >> {mi cortu lo stedu be mi} >> {mi cortu lo tuple be mi} >> >> But if we remove one of {mi} in any example this won't lead to any >> ambiguity. Indeed, where can i feel pain if not in some part of me? >> > > I feel your pain. > mi lifri lo nu do cortu > stevo > > >> Of course such technologies as described in Avatar film might raise this >> question again but even then the avatar controlled by you would be a part >> of your double body. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Friday, February 8, 2013 3:10:11 PM UTC+3, stevo wrote:

On F= ri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:18 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.= ..@gmail.com> wrote:
Many are speaking these days about internal place structure of brivla = (relations between djuno2 and djuno3 is one example) which has been probabl= y inspired by gua\spi.

I just found another exampl= e, a little more interesting.

{cortu} x1 hurts/feels pain/hurt at locus x2.

What this brivla should really look like is 
{ko'a = cortu lo broda be vo'a}
e.g.
{mi cortu lo stedu be mi}<= /div>
{mi cortu lo tuple be mi}

But if we remove on= e of {mi} in any example this won't lead to any ambiguity. Indeed, where ca= n i feel pain if not in some part of me?

I feel your pain. 

<= div>mi lifri lo nu do cortu


stevo
 
Of course such techno= logies as described in Avatar film might raise this question again but even= then the avatar controlled by you would be a part of your double body.

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