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Shirt buttons fasten, keyboard and screen buttons don't. stevo > > BUTTON > (Verb) > Like what you do with a button. > > > Something like {batke}+{catke}/{lasna}? > > > It seems like this *really* should have been base-game content. > What were the developers thinking? Seriously... > (Also, food for thought, why does something begin passively and end > agentively? cfari / sisti) > > But then you might be able to easily construct lujvos to get this > distinction: > Passively: {cfari} {tolcfa} > Agentively: {sisti} {tolsti} > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/04B9kawMyXUJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Sebasti= an <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:




17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skr= ev "la .lindar." <lindarthebard@gmail.com>:

BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt = or jacket.
pe'i {batke} ranges over both = button on shirts and keyboards, just like it's English counterpart.
I think this is a mistake. Shirt buttons = fasten, keyboard and screen buttons don't.=A0

= stevo
BUTTON
(Verb)
Like what you do with a butto= n.

Something like {batke}+{cat= ke}/{lasna}?


It seems like this *= really* should have been base-game content.
What were the develop= ers thinking? Seriously...
(Also, food for thought, why does some= thing begin passively and end agentively? cfari / sisti)
But then you might be able to easily construct luj= vos to get this distinction:
Passively: {cfari} {tolcfa}=A0
A= gentively: {sisti} {tolsti}

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